the insinuators
From: midwifeim@earthlink.net
Tue Jul 10 16:39:36 2007
I couldn't agree more!
Ina May
-----Original Message-----
>From: "art fougner, md" <evsono@pipeline.com>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2007 1:41 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>Subject: Re: EFM
>
>One of the problems with American healthcare is that the folks who have
>insinuated themselves between physicians and their patients are the ones
>profiting, often to the detriment of both physicians and patients.
>
>Art
>
>At Tue, 10 Jul 2007, ainsron wrote:
>>
>>Now that's what I'm talking about! I remember seeing that video a year or
>>two ago. EDS actually handled the Medi-Cal contract for physician
>>reimbursement in California until about four years ago. It made Ross Perot
>>a very wealthy man!
>>
>>Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Dr
>>Eberhard Lisse
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:55 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>Subject: Re: EFM
>>
>>http://www.jugglingcats.com/video/cat_herding1.htm
>>
>>on 7/10/07 5:14 PM ainsron said the following:
>>> Maybe in church or business. In the private practice of medicine,
>>> it is more like herding cats. You push in one direction and they
>>> scatter. The answer to conflicts in medical practice is dialogue
>>> and education, not coercion and threats.
>>>
>>> Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>>
>>> Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>> Ever heard of Supercession?
>>>>
>>>> el
>>>>
>>>> on 7/9/07 2:45 PM Richard D. Kaplan said the following:
>>>>
>>>>> The nurses felt that this baby was clearly hypoxic based on the
>>>>> tracing and that any further delay in delivery was indefensible.
>>>>> They were asking me as Chief to intervene, order a C/S and prevent
>>>>> any further hypoxic injury to this fetus. I would appreciate your
>>>>> (the list's) view on the medical, legal, nurse/doctor/chief
>>>>> relationship, and patient safety issues and principles that this
>>>>> case poses. I can give you the short term outcome tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Kaplan, M.D.
>>>>
>>--
>>Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)
>>el@lisse.NA el108-ARIN / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell)
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>
>--
>art fougner, md
>"May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
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