Re: Delivery suggestions

From: Raymond Stephen (stephen.raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au)
Fri May 25 19:22:54 2007


Yes it sort of seems logical that "emergency caesarean" raises your risk for "perioperative morbidity" rather more than a vaginal delivery. I'm not sure that "prolonged delivery interval and total operative time" are necessarily productive of problems with catastrophic outcomes and therefore to be avoided at all costs. Perhaps it all depends on how prolonged and what your definition is of "prolonged".

The group randomised to vaginal delivery would contain a proportion of successful vaginal deliveries which would then fare much better.

Steve

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From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of R.

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Daniel Braun
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If you read a little higher than their conclusions, you will see the following:

"The massively obese group was observed to be at significantly increased risk for emergency caesarean section (32.6% vs 9.3%, p = 0.02), prolonged delivery interval (25.6% vs 4.6%, p = 0.01), and total operative time ( 48.8% vs 9.3%, p < 0.0001),"

All of these are factors shown to increase perioperative morbidity.

If someone were ever to randomize these patients to 2 groups; elctive C/S vs attempted vaginal delivery; and then compare outcomes, My opinion is that the second group, i.e. attempted vaginal delivery would fare much worse.

Dan

On 5/24/07, Raymond Stephen <stephen.raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au> wrote:

Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1994 Feb;170(2):560-5. Massive maternal obesity and perioperative caesarean morbidity. Perlow JH, Morgan MA. Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Long Beach Memorial Medical Center Women's Hospital, California.

OBJECTIVE: Our purpose was to determine the impact of massive maternal obesity (weight > 300 pounds) on perioperative morbidity among patients undergoing caesarean section. STUDY DESIGN: A case-control study was conducted on 43 massively obese pregnant women, identified by perinatal database search, who were delivered by caesarean section between Jan. 1, 1987, and Dec. 31, 1991, at Long Beach Memorial Women's Hospital. Forty-three randomly selected patients who underwent caesarean delivery served as the control group. Medical records were abstracted for perioperative variables and compared

between groups. Student t test, chi 2, and Fisher's exact statistical analysis were used where appropriate. RESULTS: No significant differences were observed between groups for maternal age, parity, use of prophylactic antibiotics, length of recovery room stay, or wound dehiscence. The massively obese group was observed to be at significantly increased risk for emergency caesarean section (32.6% vs 9.3%, p = 0.02), prolonged delivery interval (25.6% vs 4.6%, p = 0.01), and total operative time (48.8% vs 9.3%, p < 0.0001), blood loss > 1000 ml (34.9% vs 9.3%, p = 0.009), multiple epidural placement failures (14.0% vs 0%, p = 0.02), postoperative endometritis (32.6% vs 4.9%, p = 0.002), and prolonged hospitalization (34.9% vs 2.3%, p = 0.0003). CONCLUSION: Massively obese pregnant women undergoing caesarean section are at significantly increased risk for perioperative morbidity.

PMID: 8116713 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Do you still want to do a Caesar?

Steve

-----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net <mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net> ] On Behalf Of Efrain Ramirez Sent: Friday, 25 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Delivery suggestions

Pray for an easy vaginal - an emergency C/S in this lady?! - if any doubt - "easy" C/S - elective .. good luck - I like transverse

Ef

>Wed, 23 May 2007, Lynn Montgomery wrote: > >I have a good one for y'all to ponder. 23 y.o. primigravida, currently

>at 34 weeks gestational age with twins. Currently weighs 399. EFW at >31 weeks on both twins was 5 pounds. Cephalic/cephalic presentation. >During a visit to L&D for false labor, monitoring was essentially >impossible. > >Route of delivery? > >Lynn > >--

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