Re: Postmenopausal pelvic free fluid

From: Garry E. Siegel, M.D. (garrys@mindspring.com)
Tue May 8 20:55:23 2007


Culdocentesis?

When is the last time anybody did one of those?

I think that the likelihood that she has something bad is low.

Another case:

85 YO P1001 in the hospital from assisted living for "dwindles"--abnormal Na+, etc. She is spry but a bit confused.

Renal ultrasound saw a bit of fluid in the endometrial cavity. Pelvic ultrasound, transabdominal, saw the same. She was too honery for a transvaginal scan. Her exam was normal (hospital bed), and I sent a pap.

Any thoughts?

Garry

PS--has had midline laparotomy years ago for something--patient and daughter simply don't know, but the daughter thinks that she only has 1/2 of one ovary. She is not bleeding, and is NED for some type of bladder cancer.

Garry

At Tue, 08 May 2007, Andrew Folley wrote: >
>I am not certain what the significance of peritoneal fluid would be in this
>lady??? I would be inclined to wait and watch recheck echo in 3 to 6 months
>or at most do an office culdecentesis looking at the fluid for cytololgy and
>protein level etc. It seems like laparoscopy might be doing too much at this
>point. agf
>
>>From: AllanHo@aol.com (Allan)
>>Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>>Subject: Postmenopausal pelvic free fluid
>>Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:46:34 -0500
>>
>>What would you do?
>>
>>60 yo P3 menopausal since age 45. New patient to me 3 weeks ago with no
>>specific complaints. Had some left sided tenderness during bimanual
>>exam. Transvaginal ultrasound showed free fluid in cul de sac. (Uterus
>>was small. Ovaries were not seen.) Largest pocket 2x2x2cm. CBC, TSH,
>>CEA, CA125, Liver & renal function tests were all normal. Chest x ray,
>>CT abdominal & pelvis were non-contributory. Guaiacs were negative.
>>Colonoscopy was negative. Same amount of pelvic free fluid in CDS three
>>weeks later. Patient is asymptomatic.
>>
>>I am thinking about doing a culdocentesis, but also feel that going
>>directly to laparoscopy may yeild more information and avoid the
>>possibility of vaginal contamination of the fluid for culture. Thanks
>>in advance for your input.
>>
>>--
>>Allan
>>Solo practice
>>Southwest, PA
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Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
Private Practice
Roswell, GA




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