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Re: What Is A Partial Birth Abortion?From: Louana M George (westsidebirthservice@juno.com)Wed Apr 18 17:46:01 2007
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_056f.68a3.12c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We must all remember that medically there is no actual "partial-birth abortion" this is just a political term. The politicians are attempting to whip up an emotional frenzy for the medical D&E or D&X (look up the history on this debate and you'll find the political branding of this procedure). Louana On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:37:58 -0500 DoctorJoe@aol.com writes: In a message dated 4/18/07 3:05:13 PM, dean@thehuffpeople.net writes: For anybody wondering what a partial brith abortion is, Congress defines "partial-birth abortion," at §1531(b)(1), as a procedure in which the doctor: "(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the [mother's] body ... , or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the [mother's] body ... , for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus"; and "(B) performs the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the fetus." I am not clear on whether or not a D&E is a paartial birth abortion, but I would be very reluctant to perform one at this time without a strong legal opionion backing me up. I thought it was pretty clear what was going on. The baby is viable. The aim is to partially deliver it (in particular, don't let it draw a breath, else it would be "alive" and therefore a legally protected "person" under just about anyone's laws) and then kill it (e.g. by suctioning the brains out) before it's completely delivered. If the baby is so immature that it won't survive the delivery, just delivering it doesn't satisfy the definition above. It's the "overt act ... that kills the fetus" before delivery that distinguishes this procedure from a more common D&E. Joe P. P.S. Irrespective of ACOG's argument, or anyone else's, I can envision NO scenario which would necessitate this procedure. I've yet to even hear a hypothetical one.
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> We must all remember that medically there is no actual "partial-birth
abortion" this is just a political term. The politicians are
attempting to whip up an emotional frenzy for the medical D&E or D&X
(look up the history on this debate and you'll find the political branding of
this procedure).
Louana
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:37:58 -0500 DoctorJoe@aol.com writes:
For anybody wondering what a partial brith abortion is, Congress defines "partial-birth abortion," at §1531(b)(1), as a procedure in which the doctor: "(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the [mother's] body ... , or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the [mother's] body ... , for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus"; and "(B) performs the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the fetus." I am not clear on whether or not a D&E is a paartial birth abortion, but I would be very reluctant to perform one at this time without a strong legal opionion backing me up. I thought it was pretty clear what was going on. The baby is viable. The aim is to partially deliver it (in particular, don't let it draw a breath, else it would be "alive" and therefore a legally protected "person" under just about anyone's laws) and then kill it (e.g. by suctioning the brains out) before it's completely delivered. If the baby is so immature that it won't survive the delivery, just delivering it doesn't satisfy the definition above. It's the "overt act ... that kills the fetus" before delivery that distinguishes this procedure from a more common D&E. Joe P. P.S. Irrespective of ACOG's argument, or anyone else's, I can envision NO scenario which would necessitate this procedure. I've yet to even hear a hypothetical one. ----__JNP_000_056f.68a3.12c2--
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