Re: Was Bilateral dermoids Now EL's view of US health care system

From: Dr Eberhard Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Sun Mar 11 02:54:51 2007


Dan,

on 3/10/07 8:53 PM R. Daniel Braun said the following:

>>Infant mortality, maternal mortality, teenage pregnancies are neither on
>>the top in absolute figures, nor in relative figures, taking expenditure
>>into account. Access to health care? Disposable income by Ob&Gyns?

> Infant Mortality: Great measure of how well parents can take care of an
> infant once it goes home. Not worth a hoot at measuring quality of
> Medical care. BTW, when measured on a bitrht weight to birth weight
> basis, the US perinatal mortality is quite a bit better than anyone
> else's. The overall problem is the incidence of preterm delivery. This
> seems to be a socio-religious problem, since it seems to arise from
> teenage and otherwise unwanted prgnancies.

If I applied myself hard enough I could probably find a statistical figure where Namibia shines. However, I stand by my statement. In particular since I haven't found nowhere that only the affluent and educated are allowed to have children.

Never mind that I seem to have mentioned teenage pregnancies :-)-O

> Maternal Mortality: I didn't know that 8/100,000 pregnancies was so
> bad. especially when all deaths of pregnant women and women who have
> been pregnant in the last year are included in that number.
> Teen age pregnancies are a social religious problem and have little if
> anything to do with medical care.

I didn't say it was so bad, *HE* said the US health (and implied the OB) system was the best in the world. And that just ain't so. We have been over the figures, before. 8/100000 is shocking, in fact.

> Taking expenditure into account: you got me there. The amount of waste
> in our system is way up there. e.g.: Pre-eclamptic labs ( alll you need
> to R/O HELLP syndrome is a platelet count and you are going to get one
> anyway so that anesthesia will consent to putting in an epidural What do
> most folks get? Complete liver panel that's what.) Waste Waste

There you go

> Access to Health Care: If you don't care about going bankrupt, you can
> get health care.

Actually that's true but irrelevant.

> Disposable income by OB-GYN's: I don't know about anyone else, but I am
> comfortable and happy. Far from being rich, but comfortable.

Yes, sure, but why did you wrote the other day you left to become a CMT? :-)-O

greetings, el

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