Re: Gen: Newborn Circumcision - The Kindest Cut of All?

From: Dr Eberhard Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Thu Mar 1 13:16:09 2007


Yeah, it is, but then I don't fly a broomstick.

You want to read some of the stuff that witch sends out privately?

el

on 3/1/07 5:11 PM Meenan, Anna said the following: > Yeah, I thought the name-calling was rather juvenile.
>
> Anna Meenan, MD
>
>> Really you guys--I'm not pulling this information from my butt--can't
>> figure out why some are allowed to post information and others are
>> called names.
>> I will quote again the Doctors Without Borders article on this subject.
>> This is not a fly-by-night organization but one well respected in the
>> NGO field.
>>
>> "In the fight against AIDS, Uganda has often been presented as a model,
>> not without ideological ulterior motive. The national prevalence has
>> been reduced from 28% in 1988 to 6.4% in 2005, even if large regional
>> disparities still persist. This success has been attributed by some to
>> abstinence and fidelity, whereas the credit should rather go to
>> increased use of condoms and the death of a large number of patients.
>> The moralistic approach to prevention has concrete repercussions. Last
>> year there was a period when Uganda ran out of comdoms. And between
>> 2003 and 2005 the prevelance of AIDS in the country went back up from
>> 5.6% to 6.4%." (MSF Messages, November 2006, Paris, France).
>>
>> There are other African countries with high HIV rates and the majority
>> of the male population is circumcised at puberty. I think the type of
>> discussions that have gone on in this forum regarding, for instance
>> Guardsil, could well be done in this instance as well.
>>
>> I think I should allowed to speak and challenge the paradigm as well as
>> anyone else in this forum without being called names.
>> Louana
>>
>> At Thu, 01 Mar 2007, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>
>>> As ususal she misses the boat. Flying around too much on the
>>> borrmstick, probably. And selective reading.
>>>
>>> el
>>>
>>> on 3/1/07 3:28 AM Louana said the following:
>>>> Art,
>>>> Look up this information on the Doctors Without Borders site--they
>>>> have many long term HIV projects in Uganda and they have found two
>>>> reasons for a decrease in HIV cases:
>>>> 1. Death
>>>> 2. Use of condoms
>>>> They found that when condoms were not available for a period of time
>>>> the HIV rates increased. They could not correlate behavioral
>>>> practices, such as monogomy with a decrease in HIV cases.
>>>> Condoms, condoms, condoms.
>>>> Louana

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