Re: Progesterone for prevention of preterm birth
From: Dean Huffman . (dean@thehuffpeople.net)
Mon Jan 29 14:51:51 2007
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It is my understanding that DES is NOT an estrogen, but because of its physical
structure, it fools the body into thinking that it IS an estrogen.
Dean Huffman
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From: Bernard Cristalli <bcrist@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: Progesterone for prevention of preterm birth
Date: Jan 29, 2007 4:43 PM
DES is an estrogen, yes. Look at it's effectiveness.
Every progesterone (natural or not) has been tested centuries ago, per os, per
vaginam and parenterally.
Medicine is a forever beginning.
AFuentes a écrit :
> I'm sorry, did I miss something here...I thought the discussion was on
> 17P...none of those articles you are referencing involves 17P...or are
> you of the belief that all progesterones are the same?
> ...and BTW, DES is an estrogen...
>
> A.Fuentes
>
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> *From:* ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] *On Behalf Of
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Bernard Cristalli
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> *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2007 12:42 PM
> *To:* Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
> *Subject:* Re: Progesterone for prevention of preterm birth
>
> Sorry, rather DES than Thalidomide :-)
> This literature has been written way before this and we used
> progesterone ages ago. You'll find below some relatively recent
> articles before we find it ineffective.
> Don't try to invent tepid water.
> Bernard
>
> Audra P, Mellier G, Faguer B, Dargent D, Noblot G, Fournier S. Related
> Articles, Links
> Abstract [The administration of micronized progesterone in the
> treatment of threatened premature labor]
> Rev Fr Gynecol Obstet. 1991 Dec;86(12):751-6. French.
>
> PMID: 1775892 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 5: Noblot G, Audra P, Dargent D, Faguer B, Mellier G. Related
> Articles, Links
> Abstract The use of micronized progesterone in the treatment of menace
> of preterm delivery.
> Eur J Obstet Gynecol Reprod Biol. 1991 Jul 25;40(3):203-9.
>
> PMID: 1879595 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 6: Sitruk-Ware R, Bricaire C, De Lignieres B, Yaneva H, Mauvais-Jarvis
> P. Related Articles, Links
> Abstract Oral micronized progesterone. Bioavailability
> pharmacokinetics, pharmacological and therapeutic implications--a review.
> Contraception. 1987 Oct;36(4):373-402. Review.
> PMID: 3327648 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> 7: Ferre F, Uzan M, Jolivet A, Janssens Y, Tanguy G, Sureau C, Cedard
> L. Related Articles, Links
> Abstract Influence of the oral administration of micronized
> progesterone on plasma and tissue levels of steroids in human pregnancy.
> Acta Physiol Hung. 1985;65(4):443-51.
>
> Le 29 janv. 07 à 17:40, AFuentes a écrit :
>
>> I am sorry you haven't taken the time to familiarize yourself with
the
>> literature...and please don't compare 17P with Thalidomide...I can
do
>> without the sarcasm. BTW, next week in San Francisco, there will be other
>> data presented on 17p at the SMFM meeeting..I will be more than happy to
>> share them with you, so you can get educated.
>>
>> A.Fuentes
>> Director
>> Maternal Fetal Center
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Bernard
>> Cristalli
>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:27 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>> Subject: Re: Progesterone for prevention of preterm birth
>>
>> . and ineffective in both indications.
>>
>> Le 29 janv. 07 à 14:15, Meisel Richard L. a écrit :
>>
>>> Its worth noting that the 17 OH progesterone is for the prevention
of
>>> of preterm delivery and not for the treatment of preterm labor.
>>>
>>> R L Meisel, MD
>>>
>>
>
