Re: ACOG statement

From: Dr Eberhard Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Wed Nov 29 01:22:35 2006


No, it is note. And it has never been, when we had this discussion 350 gazillion times already.

el

on 11/28/06 1:24 AM Danae Steele said the following: > I am sorry to hear the tone of some of this discussion. I think this is
> an entirely appropriate forum for this discussion, and a timely topic.
> I do value the input of midwives, and think that all of us can benefit
> by listening to eachother and learning. Name-calling is immature and
> destructive.
>
> I am sorry that ACOG came out with this statement. It flies in the face
> of many studies which have shown that OOH birth for low-risk women, and
> attended by a trained midwife, has very low risks to babies (with
> comparable risks of babies of low-risk mothers born in hospitals), and
> much lower risks to mothers of interventions, operative vaginal
> deliveries, and Cesarean sections.
>
> Doesn't anyone else on this list wonder how midwives get those good
> outcomes? What are they doing in OOH births that we aren't doing in the
> hospital? Obviously, there are lots of diffferences. I wish ACOG would
> focus on getting the best outcome for both mothers and babies, no matter
> where the births take place.
>
> And, I understand fully the risks we M.D.s take when consulting for OOH
> midwives. It would be wonderful to figure out ways to make it safe for
> the doctors to consult when needed. It would also be to the benefit of
> mothers if midwives and physicians could talk politely and respectfully
> to eachother. Who knows, maybe we could all learn something in the
> process.
>
> Contrary to some of the beliefs expressed here, I think that as long as
> women are allowed to make decisions regarding their own health care
> (which will hopefully be forever), some will choose to give birth out of
> the hospital, for a myriad of reasons. I would hope that all of us
> could focus on how to make birth as safe as possible for all mothers and
> all babies.
>
> Danae Steele, M.D.
> MFM
> Green Bay, WI
>

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