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Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed From: Dean Huffman . (dean@thehuffpeople.net) Fri Oct 6 11:31:56 2006 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Dean Huffman .: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Previous message: Barbara Nicol: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Maybe in reply to: art fougner, md: "OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Next in thread: Jamie: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Reply: Jamie: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" .. There was an Op-Ed piece in the New York Times in May of 1986 (maybe 1985) that pointed out that in the Catholic church, abortion was acceptable in the middle ages. Males could be aborted up to about 13 weeks and females up until about 20 weeks (quickening) although the article pointed out that there was no way to determine whether a fetus was a male or female. This information might also have been mentioned in Roe v. Wade, although I am not sure of that. Is there anywhere in the Christian bible where abortion is proscribed? - - - - Subject: Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed Date: Oct 6, 2006 10:01 AM I believe it was Aristotle who held that the Male Fetus became ensouled at 90 days and the female fetus at 150 days. This was also the stance of the Roman Catholic Church up until around 1850. So they felt that it was a much lesser sin to abort a pregnancy prior to ensoulment. Also interesting and indicative of the Gender bias both currently and previously predominant there. BTW, remember you were the one who said we needed to be "JUDGEMENTAL" Dan On 10/6/06, Andrew Folley <agfolley@hotmail.com > wrote: Joanne I agree with Joe. Often we hear that we can not legislate moraliaty that is not true. In fact we do it all the time. Look at all the laws we have that literally "legislate Morality". Everything from incest to drinking and driving, child abuse, murder, pornography, etc We simply have chosen as a society and as a College (ACOG) to turn our backs on the silent voices and cries of the 1.6 million babies murdered each year in the United States. agf >From: DoctorJoe@aol.com >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L < ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> >Subject: Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:55:15 -0500 > >In a message dated 10/5/06 11:48:39 PM, islesannie@yahoo.com writes: > > > We know we can not legislate morality. > > > >This is absolutely false. > > >From a Judeo-Christian perspective, just for example, are there laws that >say: > >1) Thou shalt not kill? Certainly -- in every state. > >2) Thou shalt not steal? Certainly -- in every state and also federal > >3) Thou shalt not bear false witness? Ditto that. > >We have been "legislating morality" since the Code of Hammurabi and >probably >before. > >So the argument has to be elsewhere. > >Joe P. > -- R. Daniel Braun "The way to health is an aromatic bath and scented massage everyday". Hippocrates Next message: Dean Huffman .: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Previous message: Barbara Nicol: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Maybe in reply to: art fougner, md: "OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Next in thread: Jamie: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed" Reply: Jamie: "Re: OB: Stuart Campbell Op Ed"

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