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Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long) From: Dr. Ainsworth (ainsron@sbcglobal.net) Wed Aug 16 14:23:53 2006 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: art fougner, md: "GEN: Elite HIV Patients Mystify Doctors" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" In reply to: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" Next in thread: Garry E. Siegel, M.D.: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" Reply: Garry E. Siegel, M.D.: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" When I was in the USAF, it was "don't ask, don't tell," and that was before the Clinton rules on sexual orientation. Another way of saying it is that it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. I've had doctor friends bring their kids in to watch them operate or to watch me do a C/S, often because "they are planning to go to medical school." Of course they are often only high school students and a long way from clinical medicine. In most circumstances I'm aware of the patient's permission was not obtained and the OR crew turned their heads and winked. I'm sure we all have brought individuals into the OR for what we see as valid reasons that fall outside of the hospital rules. However, in these days of Privacy Rules, etc., the potential penalties make it difficult to justify. At Wed, 16 Aug 2006, R. Daniel Braun wrote: > >I would bet money that there is and you violated it. >Dan > >On 8/16/06, Elrod, Darryl G Maj 48 MDOS/SGOBO < >Darryl.elrod@lakenheath.af.mil> wrote: >> >> I've let dads do vaginal deliveries, but I've never let a dad scrub in. >> But, you're right, I did let an Air Force cadet that had never seen an OR >> scrub in with me last week. Hmmm. Is there possibly some hospital rule on >> people that scrub in surgery? >> >> Glen >> >> //SIGNED// >> >> D. Glen Elrod, Maj., USAF, MC >> >> Obstetrician/Gynecologist >> >> Chief of Obstetrics >> >> 48 MDOS/SGOBO >> >> RAF Lakenheath, England >> >> Telephone DSN: 314-226-8130 >> >> Comm: +44 (0) 1638 52 8130 >> >> Notice of Confidentiality >> Under the Privacy Act of 1974, you must safeguard all information >> reflected on this e-mail and, if applicable, all attachments. Disclosure of >> information is IAW AFI 33-119, AFI 33-127, AFI 37-131, AFI 37-132, AFI >> 33-219, and PL 93-579" >> This e-mail message including any attachments is for the sole use of the >> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the >> sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any >> questions pertaining to disclosure should be directed to the privacy >> officer. >> >> -- >> R. Daniel Braun >> >> "The way to health is an aromatic bath and scented massage >> everyday". >> Hippocrates >> Next message: art fougner, md: "GEN: Elite HIV Patients Mystify Doctors" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" In reply to: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" Next in thread: Garry E. Siegel, M.D.: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)" Reply: Garry E. Siegel, M.D.: "Re: Ob: Cesareans galore and no discussion about staples (long)"

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