Re: amniotic fluid volumes

From: Charlie Chambers (ricechaz@gorge.net)
Wed Jun 14 12:02:11 2006


I've certainly felt that way. I still do an AFI for an "objective" measure for fluid volume. But, like the 2X2 pocket for clinical management. We've been having a discussion of how much volume of fluid would you expect at rupture for a certain AFI. I've been arguing that it's not very predictive.

On Jun 14, 2006, at 8:54 AM, art fougner, md wrote:

> Magann found both AFI and single vertical pocket depth to be weak
> predictors of abnormal amniotic fluid volumes.
>
> Obstet Gynecol. 2000 Nov;96(5 Pt 1):737-40.
>
> Art
>
> At Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>
>> I might be wrong but I think that each vertical centimeter equals to
>> approximately 40-50 cc of AF?
>>
>> Ef
>>>
>> At Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Dr. Ainsworth wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like the best reference is Chamberlain, Manning, et.al;
>>> Ultrasound
>>> evaluation of amniotic fluid volume, Am J Obstet Gynecol, 1984;
>>> 150:245-249. The classic article on Amniotic fluid volume in
>>> pregnancy
>>> is by Queenan, also in Am J Obstet Gynecol, 114: 34, 1972. There
>>> is a
>>> good graph in his book, Management of High-risk pregnancy. It shows
>>> amniotic fluid volume peaking around 34wks, with a mean of ~900
>>> and a
>>> range of 400-1300 mL (+ or – 1 SD). How long it takes to
>>> reaccumulate
>>> depends on pathologic process. He states that the fetus produces
>>> 43 mL
>>> of urine per hour and the average exchange between mother and
>>> fetus is
>>> 3600 mL per hour, according to studies from 1959 by Hutchinson.
>>>
>>> Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>>>
>>> At Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Dr. Ainsworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll resend this message tomorrow from my office, half of the
>>>> message is
>>>> missing!! Any idea why this and other emails I've sent are
>>>> truncated? Is
>>>> it happening at the OB-gyn website, or is it happening in my email
>>>> program, Outlook??
>>>>
>>>> At Mon, 12 Jun 2006, ainsron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the best reference is Chamberlain, Manning, et.al;
>>>>> Ultrasound
>>>>> 150:245-249.
>>>>> The classic article on Amniotic fluid volume in pregnancy is by
>>>>> Queenan,
>>>>> his
>>>>> book, Management of High-risk pregnancy. It shows amniotic
>>>>> fluid volume
>>>>> or -
>>>>> 1 SD). How long it takes to reaccumulate depends on pathologic
>>>>> process. He
>>>>> states that the fetus produces 43 mL of urine per hour and the
>>>>> average
>>>>> studies
>>>>> from 1959 by Hutchinson.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> Chambers
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:57 PM
>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>>> Subject: amniotic fluid volumes
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to correlate AFI's to true amniotic fluid volume.
>>>>> Does anyone
>>>>> normal
>>>>> true volume at term? And lastly, if one performs a reduction
>>>>> amnio, over
>>>>> what length of time does the fluid reaccumulate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the help. I couldn't find it in my references.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Hood River, OR
>>>>>
>>>>> cchamber@alumni.rice.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> "No matter where you go...
>>>>>
>>>>> there you are."
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Buckaroo Banzai
>>>>>
>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>> ******

>>>>>
>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>> ******

>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>> ******
>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>> ******
>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>> ******
>>>>>
>> --
>> “ The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance,
>> it is the illusion of knowledge.” Daniel J. Boorstin - Historian
>>
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> "I drank what?" - Socrates

************************************************************************ **** Charlie Chambers Hood River, OR cchamber@alumni.rice.edu

"Almost anything you do will seem insignificant but it is very important that you do it....You must be the change you wish to see in the world" -- Mahatma Ghandi. ************************************************************************ *******





use when must restrict search to only the ob-gyn-l forum...
Enter search keywords:
Returns per screen: Require all keywords:

Return to  OB-GYN-L Mail a New Message to the Forum: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
Forum Administrator: geffrey.klein@obgyn.net
Report Technical Problems: webmaster@obgyn.net
Last Updated: Sun Nov 2 04:56:10 2008

The American Medical Association is no longer designating CME hours for AMA Category II CME credit. However, physicians themselves may self designate learning activities as Category II CME credit hours if they feel it is of sufficient educational merit and meets the formal definitions of continuing medical education. OBGYN.net believes these interaction in this forum meets these criteria. For further information see the AMA web site.