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Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved From: Joanne Bulley, MD (islesannie@yahoo.com) Sat Feb 4 22:35:57 2006 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: Breastfeeding in the States" Previous message: Stmidwife@aol.com: "Re: Breastfeeding in the States" In reply to: Anna Meenan, MD: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved" Next in thread: Meenan, Anna, Kevin: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved" Reply: Meenan, Anna, Kevin: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved" Anna, what I am talking about - and what I interacted with in Michigan and here in NH are women who have done a bit of book work - and then watched 25 deliveries and then were observed doing about 25 more. The REAL s**t in OB doesn't hit the fan often enough that that qualifies one to be able to identify when the s**t and decided who / how / when to call for help in my book. It may not need 5-8 yars of training - but it sure needs more than what these folks think is adequate. The 24 hour second stage / head near perineum for hours and hours and where the baby dies after they bring her in to deliver at the hospital and the vagina looks like ground meat was horrible to witness. The baby she said had an FHR 30 all through labor -- but was born "not breathing" and was obviously an IUFD for some time- macerated and very very mec stained ... Fire away! Joanne At Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Anna Meenan, MD wrote: > >Joanne, there are a lot of midwives who feel they should not have to >spend 3 or 4 years becoming a nurse before spending another 3 years >becoming a midwife, and rightly so, I think. A great deal of nurses >training in this country (the vast majority, in fact) has no bearing >whatsoever on what goes on in midwifery. In fact, a great deal of >nurses training seems to have no bearing on what nurses do either, but >that's another story altogether. I think we would see fewer >self-trained or apprenticeship-trained direct-entry midwives if there >was a legitimate path to midwifery that did not involve going through >nursing school first, as there is in the UK. Nearly all midwives are >women, and the vast majority have families, and the extra 3 or 4 years >of training is a real and unnecessary hardship. Formal schools of >midwifery offering a certification that is recognized in all 50 states >is what we need in this country. I know the CNM's (and OB's) may not >agree, but that's my 2 cents. Fire away. > >-- >Anna Meenan, MD > -- Joanne Bulley, MD Keene, NH, USA Next message: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: Breastfeeding in the States" Previous message: Stmidwife@aol.com: "Re: Breastfeeding in the States" In reply to: Anna Meenan, MD: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved" Next in thread: Meenan, Anna, Kevin: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved" Reply: Meenan, Anna, Kevin: "Re: FRI Preeclampsia Solved"

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