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Re: Not really Kick CountsFrom: igold@cox.netTue Dec 20 21:29:33 2005
Joe, I agree. We must serve the same clientelle. I have always marvelled that my patients and medical assistants always drive nicer cars than I do, and have nicer cell phones. Of course, they have medicaid and subsidized childcare, etc. and I have to pay for mine. Ingrid Gold, CNM, Phoenix > > From: doctorjoe@aol.com > Date: 2005/12/20 Tue PM 01:49:58 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts > > Sorry, I still don't buy it. > > I work in clinics where people pay CASH for their care. I hear all the stories. > > 1) They'd rather pay for cigarettes than for anything substantive, like medical insurance. > > 2) They'd rather save up for breast implants than pay for care they actually need. > > 3) They CHOOSE to take a little more money per hour in their jobs and forgo the employer-matched payment for insurance. > > 4) They DO stay home from medical appointments because they didn't feel like going there and waiting, wanted to watch TV, etc. > > 5) They purposefully DON'T work so they can try to get certified for Social Security disability and then try to work on the sly to make cash and not lose their freebies. > > 6) They use money from an MVA for a NICE new car but not for their medical care to fix any injuries. > > And on and on and on and on and on. > > The US doesn't really have anything to be "ashamed" about. The PEOPLE of the US are, in part, spoiled children of plenty who don't have the will to get out and work like their parents did who made the money in the first place. Sheesh! > > Joe P. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fran wilson <530rose@msn.com> > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:18:52 -0600 > Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts > > I know several women right now with abnormal paps that can't get a colpo because they don't have money. Routine preventative care is not covered in the ER. Until it is too late. They may be able to afford my sliding scale pap smears but, unless they are really savvy, they have a hard time qualifying for intermediate care. > > <SNIP> > > A country that purports to be one of the most advanced in the world (and tries to tell the world how to run their business) ought to be ashamed! Think of those people as your families join around the holiday tree - or whatever is your prefernce - and enjoy expensive gifts and bountiful food. The missions and, in many cases, the bridge underpasses are full of disenfranchised people who not only have no health care they also have no food or shelter. > Warm Solstice Greetings! > Fran Wilson, CNM > > From: doctorjoe@aol.com > Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:22:25 -0600 > > Only anecdotes I know of are because the patient ELECTED to abstain from medical care. Other things are more important, like staying at home and watching TV, etc. > > Joe P. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Folley <agfolley@hotmail.com> > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:16:17 -0600 > Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts > > Does anyone know of any women in the US who has not recieved health care or does not have health care access available to her because of racial, age or financial reasons? > > >From: Dr Eberhard Lisse <el@lisse.NA> > >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net > >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > >Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts > >Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:16:08 -0600 > > > >Zach, > > > >when you reach my age, you'll realize that I enjoy my posts :-)-O > > > >I was not posting to the US medical community but to one clueless > >individual, though I do stand by the failures of society. > > > >In ! some countries the laws mandate health care for all, if only by the > >year 2010, 2020, 2030... > > > >The reason why this is not the case is because lions do not eat hyenas, > >hyenas share the spoils of lions' kills, thogh perhaps the lions don't > >like it :-)-O > > > >Same to you. > > > >el > > > >Zachariah Newton wrote: > > > Eberhard- > > > > > > You paint with a broader brush than Jackson Pollock, who threw paint > > > from cans against a palette. > > > > > > In the US, the medical community does have some handle on the > > > lowest-common-denominator style of the NHS, deplorable as it might be in > > > operation. > > > > > > The laws in the U.S. mandate that accessibility to the health care > > > system b! e open to all, regardless of ability to pay, via the emergency > > > room door of access. > > > > > > Your energy might be better spent by giving us pictures of the lion > > > catching a hyena, which is not the case with your prior message. > > > > > > In true joy, sincerely, Merry Christmas to you and your loving family. > > > > > > Zach >
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