Re: Ectopics

From: Andrew Folley (agfolley@hotmail.com)
Tue Dec 6 11:06:29 2005


I have used the cutoffs of 1500 for TVUS. If the HCG is above 1500 you should be seeing a gestational sac in the uterus. Keep in mind 5-10% of ectopics may have a "pseudogestational sac present. I have done endometrial curetagge in office to r/o chorionic villi and confirm the ectopic just like doing an endometrial biopsy but not a routine. Typically I would do it when I am suspicious of ectopic but HCG is low and falling or not rising as expected. Ie 700 and goes up to 800 in 48 hours. When HCG is lower than 1000-1500 I do as everyone else and repeat in 48 hours. The progesterone is still a useful tool in that <5 means not a viable preganancy and more than 25 means a good pregnancy.

>From: "ainsron" <ainsron@sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>Subject: RE: Ectopics
>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:50:26 -0600
>
>Never done one in that circumstance
>
>Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Garry E.
>Siegel, M.D.
>Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:47 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: OB: Ectopics
>
>When faced with a "slam-dunk" unruptured, stable ectopic, say in your
>office, and when you're considering methotrexate, what do listers do
>about curettage? In this very hypothetical situation, let's make the HCG
>3000, the ultrasound totally normal with a thin, well seen endometrial
>stripe, and the exam normal, too.
>
>Many would simply give methotrexate here; I've seen that the diagnosis
>of ectopic pregnancy is wrong here up to 40%.
>
>If you do a curettage, can you do it in the office? What type of
>equipment is used, and what anesthesia, if any?
>
>Garry
>
>--
>Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
>Private Practice
>Roswell, GA
>





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