Re: homebirth conversation
From: Joanne Bulley, MD (islesannie@yahoo.com)
Wed Nov 30 21:53:20 2005
When I was a Med Student in Toledo I went with the head opf the Obgyn
Dept to check the orangutans. We had to hit them with an anesthetic
dart before any sort of approach: Orangutans can rip off your chest wall
with one grasp!
We were getting blood to see if she had conceived.
Joanne
At Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Elrod Darryl G MAJ 48 MDOS/SGOBO wrote:
>
>Gorilla gynecologist? I bet you've seen a few births like that website we were sent to earlier with the footling breech.
>
>How ever do you start a career as a gorilla gynecologist?
>
>Glen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Folley
>Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:57 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: homebirth conversation
>
>Equating trained monkeys with dads, taxi cab drivers and midwives is
>extremely insulting to them.
>I am the acting Gorilla Gynecologist at the Toledo Zoo and I know they would
>be insulted. andrew
>
>>From: "fran wilson" <530rose@msn.com>
>>Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>>Subject: Re: homebirth conversation
>>Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:23:25 -0600
>>
>>I think 95% of the births could easily be attended by a trained monkey.
>>The skill is in knowing which 5% needs a trained and experienced birth
>>attendant. And what to do for those few that end up in the 5% right at
>>the last minute!
>>
>>Fran Wilson, ARNP
>>Certified Nurse Midwife
>>
>>After lurking throughout this conversation, I feel the need to respond to
>>this. Lumping together "nurses, midwives, dads and taxi cab drivers" is
>>extremely insulting in that it presumes that nurses and midwives have no
>>knowledge, skill or training. Granted, midwives' training in various
>>states/countries have different levels of training, but in my neck of the
>>woods, midwives are certified yearly in neonatal resuscitation, every 2
>>years in emergency skills ("unplanned" breech and twins, cord prolapse,
>>PPH, for ex.), and this follows a rigorous 4 year direct-entry university
>>programme or 1 year accreditation process for midwives who are trained out
>>of country. We do have guidelines and protocols and can usually either see
>>the disasters coming and consult appropriately or
>>else deal with the emergency. I'm sure the same goes for midwives in many
>>other settings.
>>
>>Natalie Melanson, RM
>>Ontario Registered Midwife
>>
>> >I have been practicing 22 years in OB-Gyn. My philosophy has been
>> >that
>> >nurses, midwives, dads and taxi cab drivers can deliver 95% of the
>> >babies with no problems at home or in the back of the car.
>>
--
Joanne Bulley, MD
Keene, NH, USA
"Love is indescribable and unconditional.
I could tell you a thousand things that it is not, but not one that it is."
— Duke Ellington, American jazz artist (1899-1974).
