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Re: homebirth conversation From: Elrod Darryl G MAJ 48 MDOS/SGOBO (Darryl.elrod@LAKENHEATH.AF.MIL) Mon Nov 28 23:47:37 2005 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: 48 hour stay" Previous message: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: bad babies and BAD day" Maybe in reply to: igold@cox.net: "homebirth conversation" Next in thread: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: homebirth conversation" Reply: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: homebirth conversation" Gorilla gynecologist? I bet you've seen a few births like that website we were sent to earlier with the footling breech. How ever do you start a career as a gorilla gynecologist? Glen -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Folley Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: homebirth conversation Equating trained monkeys with dads, taxi cab drivers and midwives is extremely insulting to them. I am the acting Gorilla Gynecologist at the Toledo Zoo and I know they would be insulted. andrew >From: "fran wilson" <530rose@msn.com> >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> >Subject: Re: homebirth conversation >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:23:25 -0600 > >I think 95% of the births could easily be attended by a trained monkey.  >The skill is in knowing which 5% needs a trained and experienced birth >attendant.   And what to do for those few that end up in the 5% right at >the last minute! > >Fran Wilson, ARNP >Certified Nurse Midwife > >After lurking throughout this conversation, I feel the need to respond to >this. Lumping together "nurses, midwives, dads and taxi cab drivers" is >extremely insulting in that it presumes that nurses and midwives have no >knowledge, skill or training. Granted, midwives' training in various >states/countries have different levels of training, but in my neck of the >woods, midwives are certified yearly in neonatal resuscitation, every 2 >years in emergency skills ("unplanned" breech and twins, cord prolapse, >PPH, for ex.), and this follows a rigorous 4 year direct-entry university >programme or 1 year accreditation process for midwives who are trained out >of country. We do have guidelines and protocols and can usually either see >the disasters coming and consult appropriately or >else deal with the emergency. I'm sure the same goes for midwives in many >other settings. > >Natalie Melanson, RM >Ontario Registered Midwife > > >I have been practicing 22 years in OB-Gyn. My philosophy has been > >that > >nurses, midwives, dads and taxi cab drivers can deliver 95% of the > >babies with no problems at home or in the back of the car. > Next message: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: 48 hour stay" Previous message: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: bad babies and BAD day" Maybe in reply to: igold@cox.net: "homebirth conversation" Next in thread: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: homebirth conversation" Reply: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: homebirth conversation"

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