Re: definitely Not Ob/Gyn: Lawyers! Gotta luv 'em!
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Mon Aug 8 07:50:52 2005
"The criminal element thrives on the good will of society."
Henri Ducard
At Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Diane wrote:
>
>Again, which group are we targeting this time?
>
>It is precisely the predictability of these pressures that counsels a
>resolute loyalty to constitutional safeguards. It [413 U.S. 266, 274]
>is well to recall the words of Mr. Justice Jackson, soon after his
>return from the Nuremberg Trials:
>"These [Fourth Amendment rights], I protest, are not mere second-class
>rights but belong in the catalog of indispensable freedoms. Among
>deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population,
>crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart.
>Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective
>weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government." Brinegar v.
>United States, 338 U.S. 160, 180
>
>"Beware of the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
>citizenry into patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged
>sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And
>when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils
>with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in
>seizing the rights of the citizenry, [who] infused with fear and blinded
>by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and
>gladly so. How will I know? For this I have done. And I am Julius
>Caesar."
>
>At Wed, 27 Jul 2005, RModugno@aol.com wrote:
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>>You tell 'em Jackie!
>>Robert Modugno MD MBA FACOG
>>Marietta, GA
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>>Who'd thunk? Lawyers coming to aid of would-be terrorists =20
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>>By Jackie Mason & Raoul Felder
>>
>> (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0705/mason072705.php3?printer_friendly)
>jewishworldreview.com/templates/email2.php?article_title=Who&
>39;d+thunk?+Lawyers+coming+to+aid+of+would-be+terrorists
>>&article_author=Jackie+Mason+&+Raoul+Felder+&article_date=July+27,+2005 article_url=http://www.j
>>ewishworldreview.com/0705/mason072705.php3&sentúlse&ccMe=no) ""Abraham
>>Lincoln noted that "the dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate for the st rmy
>>present." With terrorists blowing up trains, buses and the tallest buildin in
>>the United States, you don't need Abraham Lincoln to tell you that things
>>cannot remain "business as usual." You don't need Abraham Lincoln to tell ou that
>>lawyers would better serve humanity if they continued to chase their
>>secretaries around their desks rather than meddle in the affairs of the re l world,
>>attempting to apply antiquated notions of what is legal and proper to toda 's
>>chaotic and dangerous world.
>>
>>New York City's Police Commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, has sensibly starte
>>having police inspect parcels and the backpacks of New York subway riders.
>>His is no idle concern since trains in Moscow, Madrid, and London have alr ady
>>been blown up by terrorists. We have learned that subway and tunnel bombs re
>>particularly heinous because they create a constricted area wherein the
>>explosions do their deadly damage.
>>
>>Predictably, the lawyers have come to the aid of the would-be terrorists. s
>>we speak, outraged lawyers are sharpening their pencils and have come out o
>>the woodwork, setting themselves up to challenge the Police Department's
>>actions.
>>
>>Donna Liebermann, the executive director of the New York City Civil
>>Liberties Union, has already begun work on a federal lawsuit to inhibit the police.
>>Like the sea gulls that pounce on garbage from the tugboats in New York
>>harbor, there will certainly be many other lawyers assaulting rationality w th
>>lawsuits seeking the same relief.
>>
>>Surely common sense has fled the field of battle. If these package searche
>>are able to save one only one person's life, they will all be worthwhile.
>>Terrorists feed on lack of defensive preparedness and the absence of polic . If
>>a terrorist had to choose between a soft target that was unguarded, and on
>>with a heavy police presence and, additionally, subjecting the potential
>>terrorist to search, he or she would certainly choose the unprotected targe .
>>Terrorists may be crazy, demonic, and filled with hate, but they are not st pid.
>>
>> (https://www.kerenyehoshuavyisroel.com/keren/jwr/donate.cfm) The
>>possibility that a search may reveal drugs or illegal weapons is a plus â €” not a minus.
>>People shouldn't be walking around our city in possession of illegal guns,
>>drugs, etc., bringing them from one part of town to another. Being aware o the
>>risks to their delivery system by entering highly guarded venues, they
>>probably would have the common sense not to ride the subway — which would create a
>>safer environment not only for the riders but, perhaps, for New Yorkers in
>>general. This, of course, leads to another conclusion.
>>
>>There is no law, body of law, or constitutional authority that gives anyon
>>the right to ride the subway. There is no body of law or constitutional
>>authority mandating that a municipality is required to provide a subway sy tem. It
>>is offered to the public, and if members of the public feel that availing
>>itself of such transportation is not in their interest, particularly since they
>>might be searched, they are perfectly free to walk — preferably aw y from
>>the City.
>>
>>Superimposed upon all of this is the nonsense about racial profiling. You
>>don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to know that the bombers in the past have ot
>>been blond-haired, blue-eyed Scandinavian transsexuals wearing snowshoes.
>>Virtually all of the bombings have been perpetrated by certain groups of pe ple
>>coming from one particular part of the world. It would make no sense to den
>>our police the right to husband their resources and direct it toward those
>>most likely perpetrators rather than have to waste their time — an risk our
>>safety — searching little old ladies. We have the best police forc in the
>>world. Many of the police officers are members of minorities themselves, a d, as a
>>matter of fact, in the last graduation of police officers, the minority wa
>>the majority of the new recruits. The police know the profiles of potentia
>>bombers and they should be allowed to do their job. This is not a case of
>>profiling people because of their ethnicity, or harassing them, or denigra ing
>>them simply because of their race or ethnicity. This is simply a sensible
>>protective action that logically can be most effective when directed towar s the
>>certain known groups of people most likely to commit the crime.
>>
>>All of this is not to suggest that there will come a time, hopefully soone
>>rather than later, that none of this will be necessary, but in the interim
>>let us err — if err it is — on the side of saving lives
--
art fougner, md
"If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else."
Lawrence Peter Berra
