Re: FRI Man faints, dies after seeing epidural

From: Ingrid Gold (igold@cox.net)
Sun Jul 10 19:40:45 2005


I remember a ceserean years ago when the 400+ pound husband passed out as the physician began his incision. The anesthesiologist and others were trying to deal with the husband on the floor when all attention deserved to be on the patient............Ingrid Gold, CNM

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert J. Carpenter, Jr. MD" <zygote@icsi.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: FRI Man faints, dies after seeing epidural

> The reality is that the hospital was not justified to use the husband as a
> surrogate for
> a medical person - RN, LVN, MD, CRNA. When asked in deposition or in trial
> if it
> was reasonably foreseeable that if the untrained husband fainted and hit
> his head
> against immovable structure was it possible/probablew that he would
> sustain an
> intracranial injury, the answer woyuld be - yes!
>
> Such an event happened in Houstob in the office of someone I know who did
> EMB
> and fit (runner) husband - fainted, intracranial bleed and now mean shadow
> of former
> seld - highly succesful corporate atty.
>
> Several times over the years I have had students - Medical - nursing -
> PA - faint
> during amnios and several faint during circumcision. In some the person
> was caught
> and gently lowered to floor without sustaining injury.
>
> One combat surgeon from Vietnam actually fainted during amnio - to his
> utter
> surprise (and mine to) he actually had seizure from cerebrtal
> hypoperfusion and
> voided on self.
>
> There are multiple minefields around - most of which are foreseeable and
> preventable. This was not a case of "old age" and in my opinion should not
> be
> suggested as such!
>
> Life is tenuous but some things certainly tip the balance to a shorter
> one!
>
> Thanks Bob
>
> On 10 Jul 2005 at 15:13, DoctorJoe@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/10/05 2:18:29 PM, RModugno@aol.com writes:
>>
>> >
>> > so that we can make sure that people only
>> > die from old age.
>> >
>> > People die from old age? Surely that's someone's fault!
>> >
>>
>> I think we should all keep repeating "You're only as old as you
>> look!" and then we can sue the dermatologists for death from old age!
>>
>> How's THAT for a plan?!?
>>
>> THE MAN
>>
>
> Robert J. Carpenter, Jr. MD
> 6624 Fannin, #2720
> St. Luke's Medical Tower
> Houston,TX 77030-2339
> 713-795-4600
>





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