Re: Two questions for the List

From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Thu Jul 7 13:53:53 2005


In a British trial of EFM the only difference in outcomes between EFM and auscultation was neonatal seizures - and this was only in women who also received oxytocin. Additionally, the need for oxytocin should logically affect intrapartum risk assessment.

art

At Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >
>If indeed ACOG doesn't "require" continuous monitoring during Pitocin
>administration in an otherwise low risk pregnancy (I simply don't
>remember if ACOG comments on this specifically or not), then I agree
>fully that the nursing standard shouldn't trump ACOG.
>
>However, if Ob-Gyn nurse group (AWON or something like that)says it is
>so, then the administration has a leg to stand on. Similarly, if the
>legal eagles/risk manager/med mal carrier for the hospital require it,
>again, so be it. They nursing administration simply needs to be
>forthright in their rationale.
>
>Garry
>
>>Second, our nursing administration has asserted that whenever a patient is
>>started on pitocin, they are continuously monitored period, no exceptions.
>>Their justification sited is nursing association standards that mandate such
>>monitoring. My understanding has been that variations on monitoring,
>>including intermittent auscultation, depending upon the stage of labor, is
>>all acceptable from ACOG. They say "it is being done this way everywhere".
>>Maybe I am being sensitive here, but I object to a nursing standard taking
>>precedence over ACOG standards.
>>Lynn
>>
>>--
>>Lynn D. Montgomery, M.D.
>>Maternal-Fetal Medicine, OB/GYN
>>Rocky Mountain Women's Health
>>2835 Fort Missoula Rd., Suite 304
>>Missoula, Montana, 59804
>>406-549-0978
>>fax 406-549-0987
>>e-mail: apgar10@montanadsl.net
>>
>--
>Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
>Private Practice
>Roswell, GA
>

--
art fougner, md

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