Re: pulling baby out by your hands????
From: Charlie Chambers (cchamber@gorge.net)
Mon May 30 22:46:22 2005
Always hard to form an opinion regarding medical stories when you are
probably getting them 3rd, 4th, etc. hand. Would also apply to the
story that Anna forwarded as well. I think in each instance. The
initial first step for any patient who is dissatisfied with her care
should approach the doctor for answers to the concerns. If not
satisfactory then proceed to either the clinic administrator or
hospital.
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Charlie Chambers
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Hood River, OR USA
cchamber@alumni.rice.edu
"...not because I regard fishing as being so terribly
important but because I suspect that so many of the other
concerns of men are equally unimportant-and not nearly
so much fun."
John Voelker
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On May 30, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Missie wrote:
> I recieved this in my email. I was wondering what you all thought.
> This
> isn't my birth story, but I am a doula and I find this appalling. This
> was reported as the doctor's first day, and going solo.
>
> Mom was induced. He reached 4 fingers inside and pulled her open.
> That
> had to hurt so bad. He told her he had to do it so she wouldn't tear.
> He was really pulling her. I could see baby's head (and all that
> hair!)
> way before crowning. The way he was doing it I was really afraid she
> would tear from him pulling so much. She did fine with it though. She
> pushed him right out. I was really surprised at the ease she delivered
> him. She had no problems pushing and he came out nice and slow and
> easy. Good kid. :)
> About 10 seconds after his head was delivered the dr said ok lets get
> him out. He grabbed his head and pulled and pulled. I wanted to hit
> him upside the head. I was just standing there wide eyed. I coulnd't
> beleive he was doing that. I could see that baby's hand was tucked up
> under his jaw. The dr pulled and pulled. The nurses were even looking
> at him funny. I really wish I would have just been bold and yelled
> stop
> pulling on that baby! She wasn't even having a contraction. When his
> shoulders came out mom tore upwards and into her labia. I don't know
> how many stitches she got though. It didn't look like a big tear, but
> he was down there longer than I expected. Ok so baby is out now and I
> assume the worst is over. What damage can he possibly do now? He is
> holding baby (hasn't picked him up and showed him to megan at all) He
> grabs his clamps and I said no she wants to wait until it stops
> pulsing.
> He touches it says oh its fine and clamps right away. The nurses
> stopped and looked at him cause he agreed he would wait. He picked up
> baby and want to hand him to the nurse. She said uh doesn't mom want
> to
> hold her baby? He said I don't know does she? and i said yes give her
> her baby. But he doesn't allow skin to skin. He has the nurse cover
> mom's stomach with a blanket and wrap up her baby. The next thing he
> does makes my stomach turn. Seriously I got a stomach ache. He
> grabbed
> the cord and started pulling. My mouth dropped and I'm just staring.
> He
> is pulling and tugging and nothing is working so he puts his entire
> hand
> inside megan, grabs her placenta and starts pulling on that. Every
> time
> he got a peice out he would cut it off and reach back inside for more.
> He finally told her to push and she said she couldn't yet. A bit more
> pulling and then he tells her again she has to push cause he isn't
> getting it out. So she does and it comes out just fine. I was so
> scared thinking that the whole time that she was going to hemorage.
>
> Is this a common practice? Many of us feel this is all sorts of
> dangerous to mom and baby. Do you have any info showing the damage
> that
> could be done. This mom and her doula wants to complain about being
> treated this way. They feel very lucky mom and baby are actually ok,
> without huge amounts of bleeding for mom or neurological damage for the
> baby..
>
> --
> Missie
>
> Douls/CBE
>
> Women can give birth by the action of their own bodies, as animals do.
> Women can enjoy the process of birth and add to their dignity by being
> educated to follow the example set by instinctive animals. Women can
> take joy and pleasure for the privilege of being women and bless God
> for being able to give birth, instead of showing snarling hostility
> toward the men who love them." page 20
> Husband Coached Childbirth, by Robert A Bradley, MD, copyright 1965,
> 1971, 1996
>
> We have created our own mythology of birth. The drama of this myth is
> in the medical emergency, the speeding ambulance, the urgent bleep,
> the staccato calls for assistance, the struggles of a team of doctors
> and nurses to combat death
> It is a drama that feeds the fears inherent in the medical model of
> birth and, in this way, further conditions pregnant women to submit to
> its ritual.
> Pg. 63; Rediscovering Birth by Sheila Kitzinger
>
