Re: OB: 3 hour GTT instructions

From: Charlie Chambers (cchamber@gorge.net)
Tue May 17 12:39:19 2005


>From rd.braun@gmail.com Tue May 17 12:39:16 2005
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That is my point, you couldn't unless you retested them with the load. Dr. O'Sullivan in Boston, in the '70's, did all that on nearly a thousand patients who were all tested with the load. That is where the normal values come from and is the "Gpld Standard". In order to know someone would have to test close to that many patients with and without he load to see if there was a difference.

On 5/17/05, Elrod Darryl G MAJ 48 MDOS/SGOBO <Darryl.elrod@lakenheath.af.mil> wrote: >
> How could you tell if it were falsely positive without retesting them? I
> could assume that the women that never had an abnormal during their testing
> might have really been false positive. Is there really that much difference
> between 3 days of CHO loading and "normal diet"?
>
> Glen
>
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> *From:* ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] *On Behalf Of *R.=
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> Daniel Braun
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:23 PM
> *To:* Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
> *Subject:* Re: OB: 3 hour GTT instructions
>
> And how many FALSE Positive tests have you had???? Maybe that is the
> reason for the increased incidence of GDM over the last 2 decades.
>
> Dan
>
> On 5/17/05, *Elrod Darryl G MAJ 48 MDOS/SGOBO* <
> Darryl.elrod@lakenheath.af.mil> wrote:
>
> It's odd, but for some reason the information that women don't need to
> carb load still hasn't hit most labs. They are still asking women if
> they have done the prescribed diet.
>
> We haven't done any diet either for several years.
>
> Glen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Folley
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:30 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
> Subject: RE: OB: 3 hour GTT instructions
>
> Garry
>
> I was just at a lecture by MFM form Texas and he said no need for
> special
> loading etc before 3 hour. Simply have them fast the night before. We
> have
> not been doing ady preloading in toledo.
> andy
>
> >From: garrys@mindspring.com (Garry E. Siegel, M.D.)
> >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
> >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net >
> >Subject: OB: 3 hour GTT instructions
> >Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:06:23 -0500
> >
> >Do any of you guys have a handout that tells people about how to eat
> the
> >150 grams of carbs/day on the days prior to a 3 hour GTT?
> >
> >Please post or email privately.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Garry
> >
> >--
> >Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
> >Private Practice
> >Roswell, GA
>

> --
> R. Daniel Braun
> Kinky for Governor
>

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