Re: Bonding
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Thu May 5 20:04:46 2005
Anna,
I actually think this lady, who is in a stable relationship, attended
ANC regularily and frequently, doesn't smoke, drink nor does drugs, and
was concerned about her last, traumatic delivery enough to ask for an
elective C/S (which I would have done hadn't she dilated and delivered
so quickly) with T/L is quite right (or is that pragmatic? Or
practical?) Of course, she's breastfeeding very well.
Dan,
What's "Normal"? And bonding babies makes stable productive adults?
And, do you really think I would have brought this up (like this) if I
was worried one little bit?
el
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In message <259b461f05050516442f78c147@mail.gmail.com>, "R. Daniel Braun" write
s:
> Ye, EL, the point is not that we want the Mother to do anything except
> raise her kid well. The point is that if what she wants is what you
> described here, that is very abnormal(Not politically incorrect) and
> may well be a sign of problems to come.
>
> Dan
>
> On 5/5/05, Anna Meenan, MD <annam@uic.edu> wrote:
> > No, I didn't miss your point, el. I am well aware of how some folks
> > feel about the political correctness of bonding (and I'm not going to
> > debate that here), and ordinarily I want for the mother what she wants
> > for herself, but when what the mother wants is to barely look at her
> > baby and then order it away, i worry. A lot. The fact that she's
> > bringing up 3 others that look just like it is irrelevant, unless all
> > three are stable, productive adults. If they are still small children,
> > I'm still worried.
> >
> > Anna Meenan, MD
> >
> > At Thu, 05 May 2005, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > >
> > >Dan, Anna,
> > >
> > >Actually both of you totally miss the point. Or rather make the point.
> > >
> > >This is Politically Correct rubbish, actually. It doesn't matter what we
> > >want the mother to want, but what the mother wants.
> > >
> > >And, I am not concerned at all, she brought three up that look just like
> > >this one, and she'll bring this one up too :-)-O And she had her Tubular
> > >Ligation this morning as planned.
> > >
> > >greetings, el
> > >
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> > >
> > >In message <259b461f0505050703104bf647@mail.gmail.com>, "R. Daniel Braun"
> write
> > >s:
> > >> You beat me to it.
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >> On 5/5/05, Anna Meenan, MD <annam@uic.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >> > And are you concerned at all about her interaction with this baby and
> > >> > with her other children? Not all the moms I deliver want the baby on
> > >> > their chest to nurse right away, but in general, they do want to hold
> > >> > the baby and get to know it, after their bottom end is stitched up,
> > >> > cleaned up, and covered up, and we have put the labor bed back togethe
> r.
> > >> > I would be very concerned about a mom who took one look at the baby an
> d
> > >> > ordered it sent to the nursery. I have only seen that a couple of
> > >> > times, and both moms were having problems with severe depression.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anna Meenan, MD
> > >> >
> > >> > At Thu, 05 May 2005, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I yesterday had what we translate from German as a "Key Experience".
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I delivered a G4P3M0. Vaginally, within one hour from tip of finger a
> nd
> > >> > >after one push. No problem.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >So, when we put the baby on the mother's chest, to bond and nurse and
> > >> > >all this other politically correct stuff, the mother takes one look a
> nd
> > >> > >says: "She looks just like the other ones. You can take her to the
> > >> > >nursery now."
> > >> > >
> > >> > >:-)-O
> > >> > >
> > >> > >el
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> R. Daniel Braun
> > >> Kinky for Governor
> > >>
> >
>
> --
> R. Daniel Braun
> Kinky for Governor
>
