Re: Bonding
From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com)
Thu May 5 18:44:33 2005
Ye, EL, the point is not that we want the Mother to do anything except
raise her kid well. The point is that if what she wants is what you
described here, that is very abnormal(Not politically incorrect) and
may well be a sign of problems to come.
Dan
On 5/5/05, Anna Meenan, MD <annam@uic.edu> wrote:
> No, I didn't miss your point, el. I am well aware of how some folks
> feel about the political correctness of bonding (and I'm not going to
> debate that here), and ordinarily I want for the mother what she wants
> for herself, but when what the mother wants is to barely look at her
> baby and then order it away, i worry. A lot. The fact that she's
> bringing up 3 others that look just like it is irrelevant, unless all
> three are stable, productive adults. If they are still small children,
> I'm still worried.
>
> Anna Meenan, MD
>
> At Thu, 05 May 2005, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >
> >Dan, Anna,
> >
> >Actually both of you totally miss the point. Or rather make the point.
> >
> >This is Politically Correct rubbish, actually. It doesn't matter what we
> >want the mother to want, but what the mother wants.
> >
> >And, I am not concerned at all, she brought three up that look just like
> >this one, and she'll bring this one up too :-)-O And she had her Tubular
> >Ligation this morning as planned.
> >
> >greetings, el
> >
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> >In message <259b461f0505050703104bf647@mail.gmail.com>, "R. Daniel Braun" write
> >s:
> >> You beat me to it.
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On 5/5/05, Anna Meenan, MD <annam@uic.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> > And are you concerned at all about her interaction with this baby and
> >> > with her other children? Not all the moms I deliver want the baby on
> >> > their chest to nurse right away, but in general, they do want to hold
> >> > the baby and get to know it, after their bottom end is stitched up,
> >> > cleaned up, and covered up, and we have put the labor bed back together.
> >> > I would be very concerned about a mom who took one look at the baby and
> >> > ordered it sent to the nursery. I have only seen that a couple of
> >> > times, and both moms were having problems with severe depression.
> >> >
> >> > Anna Meenan, MD
> >> >
> >> > At Thu, 05 May 2005, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >I yesterday had what we translate from German as a "Key Experience".
> >> > >
> >> > >I delivered a G4P3M0. Vaginally, within one hour from tip of finger and
> >> > >after one push. No problem.
> >> > >
> >> > >So, when we put the baby on the mother's chest, to bond and nurse and
> >> > >all this other politically correct stuff, the mother takes one look and
> >> > >says: "She looks just like the other ones. You can take her to the
> >> > >nursery now."
> >> > >
> >> > >:-)-O
> >> > >
> >> > >el
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> R. Daniel Braun
> >> Kinky for Governor
> >>
>
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R. Daniel Braun
Kinky for Governor
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