Re: Wrongful Death Suit Allowed Over Embryo

From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Thu Feb 24 09:30:41 2005


For anyone interested in this and other slippery slopes, you might enjoy this ...

http://www1.law.ucla.edu/~volokh/slipperymag.pdf

art

At Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote: >
>Some might; most will; who decides is the question.
>
>--
>Richard Chudacoff, MD
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of art
>fougner, md
>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:30 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: Wrongful Death Suit Allowed Over Embryo
>
>at 32 weeks, some might argue that the baby is more than a disinterested
>party.
>
>art
>
>At Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote:
>>
>>Just a philosophic argument. I guess the discussion here is "where do you
>>draw the line?" who gets to decide: The government, the church or the
>>individual? I guess I'm a strong advocate for individual rights
>>
>>--
>>Richard Chudacoff, MD
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of art
>>fougner, md
>>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:48 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>Subject: Re: Wrongful Death Suit Allowed Over Embryo
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>abortion at any gestational age ( say 32 wks) can be equated with
>>smoking a joint?
>>
>>art
>>
>>At Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote:
>>>
>>>As should smoking marijuana and other vices, as long as it does not
>>>interfere with others. Basic existentialism: do what you want, as long as
>>>you don't interfere with others doing what they want to do
>>>
>>>--
>>>Richard Chudacoff, MD
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of art
>>>fougner, md
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:30 AM
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>Subject: Re: Wrongful Death Suit Allowed Over Embryo
>>>
>>>Joanne
>>>
>>>so then abortion should be ok at any gestational age as long as the mom
>>>thinks it's morally ok?
>>>
>>>art
>>>
>>>At Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>To me it isn't that it is "counter-intiutive" -- it is inherent that at
>>>>that jucture between life and death there are many cultural - religious
>>
>>>>- moral interpretations and values.
>>>>
>>>>Just as in the ICU -- there is one person who decides that no more
>>>>treatments will be done and stopping treatment is what he or she wants -
>>>>and in the bed next door the patient with exactly the same situation
>>>>wants everything done to save him or her -- be it only for one or two
>>>>more days (or weeks or months).
>>>>
>>>>The debates over the right answers at 16 weeks - or 20 weeks gestation -
>>>>or 80 years and 2 weeks of life really have some of the same quandries.
>>>>
>>>>Which is why I fervently believe that it has to be left up to the
>>>>individual to make that moral judgement as an individual - not for the
>>>>society to make a judgement that everyone in a particular situation has
>>>>to obey.
>>>>
>>>>Joanne
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 23 Feb 2005, art fougner, md wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>it does seem counter-intuitive, however, that on one floor physicians
>>>>>are terminating the same life that on another floor other physicians are
>>>>>laboring mightily to save. just a thought ...
>>>>>
>>>>>art
>>>>>
>>>>>At Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Braun, R. Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And makes abortion after 20 weeks illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>R. Daniel Braun, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"If everyone likes you, you're doing something wrong."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kinky Friedman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more
>>>>>>dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andy Rooney
>>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Joanne Bulley, MD
>>>>Keene, NH, USA
>>>>
>>>--
>>>art fougner, md
>>>
>>> "If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else."
>>>Lawrence Peter Berra
>>>
>>--
>>art fougner, md
>>
>> "If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else."
>>Lawrence Peter Berra
>>
>--
>art fougner, md
>
> "If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else."
>Lawrence Peter Berra
>

--
art fougner, md

"If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else." Lawrence Peter Berra





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