Re: CNM Cases
From: Anna Meenan, MD (annam@uic.edu)
Tue Nov 30 15:36:54 2004
The binaural fetoscope comes with headgear for one of two reasons, or
both, I have been told by various old-timers.
The first is that it makes it easier to hear the FHT because it adds
bone conduction to air conduction, a fact which I have never been overly
impressed with, and i think the professor who rapped you over the
knuckles was wrong. I can hear quite well with the bess of a good
stethoscope. It's a sound that you have to train your ears to pick up.
The second is that a solo practitioner working without an assistant can
listen to FHT's during second stage labor without contaminating his
gloved hands.
--
Anna Meenan, MD
At Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Steve & Eryl Raymond wrote:
>
>You should come and work here for a while. We have never been able to
>keep electronic devices for listening to the fetal heart - we think they
>get pinched by people who think they are radios. Therefore we always
>listen with a Pinard - the better name is a "phonendoscope" - unless it
>is in the Labour Ward where a Cardiotocograph is available.
>I have always been fascinated by those American pictures of a binaural
>fetoscope which make the user look like a rhinoceros or a unicorn about
>to attack and disembowel a pregnant woman. But I've never seen one "in
>the flesh". My professor when I was very junior rapped me over the
>knuckles for using a stethoscope as he said it was too difficult to pick
>up the fetal heart which has a sound frequency different from that of
>the adult heart sounds.
>Steve Raymond
>
>Anna Meenan, MD wrote:
>
>>According to Google, a fetoscope is both a stethoscope for listening to
>>the fetus, and a fiberoptic scope for looking at the fetus in utero.
>>There are two types of fetoscopes used for listening. The binaural
>>fetoscope, pictured in the website Art's post links to, and the Pinard
>>fetoscope, pictured here:
>>
>>http://www.birthinternational.com/product/equip/be009.html
>>
>>We have a binaural fetoscope in a drawer at our clinic, and I encourage
>>our students to learn to use it. The ability to hear FHT's with a
>>fetoscope (or my Littmann Cardiology Stethoscope) is a skill which has
>>come in handy more than once, as no one in the ER can ever seem to find
>>the doppler when it is needed.
>>
>>One of the guys in my call group has a Pinard that he brought with him
>>from Argentina.
>>
>> Anna Meenan, MD
>>
>>At Mon, 29 Nov 2004, art fougner, md wrote:
>>
>>>F-E-T-O-S-C-O-P-E
>>>correctamundo, EL
>>>
>>>and for any interested ...
>>>http://www.allheart.com/om13fetal.html
>>>
>>>art
>>>
>>>At Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>>
>>>>If I am not mistaken, it is called fetoscope, but I find that my
>>>>Littmann's Cardiology stethoscope does very nicely.
>>>>
>>>>el
>>>>