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Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform From: David Priver, MD (dpriver@aol.com) Tue Aug 10 22:23:23 2004 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Rafael Haciski: "Re: Tort Reform" Previous message: David Priver, MD: "Re: Tort Reform" In reply to: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Next in thread: art fougner, md: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Reply: art fougner, md: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Reply: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" I agree that the discussions have been interesting and, most thankfully, very courteous. I am pleased that we are able to agree to disagree and maintain respect for one another. As to returning to the subject of OB/GYN, no problem. Let's talk about embryonic stem cell research. Herein lies probably the most profound difference between Bush and Kerry. You know that the Bush position is extreme when the likes of the Reagan family, Senator Hatch, and loads of other so-called "pro-life" folks have stepped forward and asked the president to back off on these absurd restrictions. He won't, of course, do so, as we all know who controls the Republican party. My only hope is that the Democrats will not let a day go by between now and the election without pounding home this message: to keep Bush in power means at least another four years of scientific stagnation. Anyone who has a family member with diabetes, Parkinsonism, or any of a whole host of debilitating diseases should be furious and indignant that a tiny group of extremists should be able to stand in the way of valuable research. At Mon, 09 Aug 2004, Harrison Sheld wrote: > >It seems there are very divergent opinions on this thread, neither of >which is likely to be persuasive of the other. I am pleased that up to >this point we have had a rational discussion. It has not deteriorated >into a flame war. > >To be persuasive, argument ought to be based on fact and not echo >political rhetoric. When I read ad hominem verbiage, and labels such as >"fascist," "Hitler", "Nazi" that tells me I am being given a weak >argument or else I would be given verifiable facts. > >We live in a representative republic governed by consensus based on the >wishes of the majority, respecting rights we have agreed on are due the >minority. For example, if the majority of Americans, and I think there >is polling data to suggest that, do not want mid-trimester terminations, >the majority needs to be persuaded by fact, not ad hominem attack, >smears, or labels, that there is a place for midtrimester terminations. >The minority accepts but may disagree with majority decisions, but that >is a call to persuade their fellow citizens in a respectful, rational >manner. > >Maybe it is time to get back to OB/GYN on this site. > >Joanne Bulley, MD wrote: > Next message: Rafael Haciski: "Re: Tort Reform" Previous message: David Priver, MD: "Re: Tort Reform" In reply to: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Next in thread: art fougner, md: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Reply: art fougner, md: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform" Reply: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Politics was K/E and tort reform"

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