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Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong From: Braun, R. Daniel (rbraun@iupui.edu) Sun Jul 11 16:44:20 2004 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Maybe in reply to: Efrain Ramirez: "Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Next in thread: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Reply: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Reply: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" If it is indicated it doesn't cause pain??????????????? Pain is harm, An incision is harm. "Sound is like water. If you drill one hole in the wall the sound will leak right through." - JAY BRAUN, a band member by love, a soundproofer by necessity. -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Efrain Ramirez Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong I see no "harm" in doing an indicated hysterectomy - maybe we are saying the same thing - differenttly. >At Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Braun, R. Daniel wrote: > >And a total lack of doing anything. Starting an IV is harmful. Doing a >hysterectomy is harmful. > >The principle should state: Do the least harm possible while doing the >most good. > >Dan > >"Sound is like water. If you drill one hole in the wall the sound will >leak right through." > >- JAY BRAUN, a band member by love, a soundproofer by necessity. > >-----Original Message----- >From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of >Efrain Ramirez >Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:56 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L >Subject: Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong > >My favorite has been - "Primum non nocere" - whoever wrote it - >cheers.. > >It is very difficult to follow that principle - it takes guts, honesty, >intelligence and a true sense of caring for people.. > >>>At Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Myer Bornstein wrote: >> >>Another quote about medicine that I remember by Sydenham (of >>Sydenham's >>Chorea) :" ours is an art that is best learned by its practice and its > >>use." >> >>-- >>Myer S. Bornstein, MD, MMM, FACOG, FACPE >> >> _____ >> >>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of >>DoctorJoe@aol.com >>Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:42 AM >>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L >>Subject: Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong >> >>In a message dated 7/8/04 18:22:48, RModugno@aol.com writes: >> >>The good news is that she pushed 3 times and baby came out with Apgars >>of 9/9. Whew! I can relax again. >> >>Glen >> >>Exactly! Good for you! >> >>Just yesterday, a law professor asked me "Medicine's a science, isn't >>it?" >> >>My reply was "Medicine is the artful application of science." >> >>I think this is evidence of that. >> >>Joe P. >> >-- >"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. >But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound >truth." > >Niels Bohr (1885 - 1962) > -- "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." Niels Bohr (1885 - 1962) Next message: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Maybe in reply to: Efrain Ramirez: "Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Next in thread: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Reply: David Priver, MD: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong" Reply: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Elective Induction - something goes wrong"

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