Re: Bioidentical Hormone Replacement Therapy

From: Joanne Bulley, MD (islesannie@yahoo.com)
Sat May 8 22:45:14 2004


Yes - from Suzanne Somers - sho apparently "consults" with Dr Diana Schwarzbein (endocrinologist form California - wrote The Schwarzbein Principle).

I haven't read any of the Somers book - but I have read a good bit of Schwarzbein - and I *think* she isn't meaning just the compoundes stuff.

I tell patients that 17B-Estradiol is bioidentical to what the ovary produces ans is Prometrium (and the new Crinone vaginal progesterone). If they want it "delivered" the same way as the ovaries did it - then there is the transdermal or transvaginal approach.

They seem relieved that there is currently available the "bioidentical" stuff - and I do tell them that we have no data to make a definitive answer that one type of estrogen is 100% certain to be medically superior that another.

Since at the moment most of the hormone therapy is based on gut level responses to "Sound Bite" information - and I firmly believe that as the WHI was a study of older women without symptoms - I still think some for of HT is perfectly fine - if the woman wants it.

So I discuss what I know - what I don't know - and usually she ahs already decided whether or not she wants any hormones before the conversation starts - then unless I think her choice is totally off the wall we usually work together and come up with something.

An interesting one last week was a woman who had gone off her estrogen a few months before - was adamant she had to have something for vasomotor symptoms - but it couldn't be estrogen! If I recall coreectly we settled on a trial of Efffexor. My understanding is that the placebo effect for vasomotor symptoms is initially about 30% - but wanes as time goes on. Hencs all the folks who applaud all the isoflavones etc - then eventually come in saying they no longer help.

Ok - it is late - I am rambling - so I will sign off!

At Sat, 8 May 2004, art fougner, md wrote: >
>popularized by Suzanne Somers, this is not exactly the epitome of
>evidence-based medicine -
>
>http://www.ijpc.com/_pdf/nhrt.pdf
>
>art
>
>>>Subject: Bioidentical Hormone Replacement Therapy
>>
>>Recently I have had numerous women inquiring about Bioidentical Hormone
>>Replacement Therapy (BHRT). Since I'm working and unable to watch
>>OPRAH, I seem to know less than my patients! AND, they find it shameful
>>that as a midwife, I don't know about it! Frankly, I've been selectively
>>tuning out anything that I hear of lately that has to do with hormones!
>>Does anyone have any experience with BHRT, or know of any "reliable"
>>literature? Has anyone had any difficulty with compounding pharmacies.
>>Does this pose any different risk to us as compared to prescribing
>>traditional HRT (obviously after thorough counseling)? I tell you, we've
>>had several calls recently regarding the lawsuits for taking HRT and it
>>makes me sick. I even hate reading the paper anymore because I see the
>>ad everyday. It makes me want to remove this component of care from my
>>pratice. But alas, I'm a midwife and we are "With woman...For a
>>lifetime of care". Besides, it seems that as everyone throws out their
>>PremPro, they'll be running to this soon and "I don't know" doesn't seem
>>to b a suitable answer aymore.
>>Thanks for any info you can provide.
>>
>>Angela DeTie APN, CNM
>>"clueless in Vegas"
>>
>--
>art fougner, md
>ich bin ein New Yorker
>

--
Joanne Bulley, MD
Keene, NH, USA




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