Re: GEN: Billing/Insurance

From: Jay Kulkin (jkulkin@mindspring.com)
Fri Jun 27 19:08:29 2003


Employers pay for the plan to "administer" the program. Thye pay a fee for this service. This is called ASO­ministratrive Services Only. All the plans use bundling software so this is where the argument has to be made.

Jay

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>----- Original Message ----- From: "art fougner, md" <evsono@pipeline.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:26 PM Subject: Re: GEN: Billing/Insurance

> looks as though this is a bundling issue - why not begin to bill > patients for the balance after notifying both them and their insurance > carrier what you are planning to do. this is going on long enuff - if > combined surgery is indicated, then propose it. if payment cannot be > assured do NOT perform any component. involve the patient in this issue > - have the patient notify the employer who pays good money for this sham > of coverage. > > just my opinion ... i could be wrong. > > art > > At Fri, 27 Jun 2003, D. Ashley Hill, MD wrote: > > > >At Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: > >> > >>While I'm sure that my staff will sort this out, the fact that this > >>happened, and that will need to appeal it, galls me. > >> > >>A patient was referred from a colon rectal surgeon for LAVH-BSO, as she > >>was having to undergo a sphincter repair, and wanted/needed a > >>hysterectomy (not the subject of this post). As it turns out, she also > >>needed an anti-incontinence operation. > > > >snip > > > >One of the largest urology groups in town announced a few weeks ago that > >they no longer will perform combined urologic procedures along with, for > >example, gynecologic procedures. For example, if a patient needs a > >vaginal hysterectomy and enterocele repair along with a sling, they > >advise that we perform the gynecologic procedures first, then, at a > >later date, they will perform the sling or tape procedure. This is in > >response to the local insurer's denial of payments for "secondary" > >procedures. > > > >Ashley > > > >-- > >D. Ashley Hill, MD > >Associate Director > >Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology > >Florida Hospital Family Practice Residency > >Orlando, Florida > > > > -- > art fougner, md > ich bin ein New Yorker





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