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Re: christine-ToniFrom: Toni (anonymous@obgyn.net)Tue Mar 16 08:13:23 1999
At Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Christine wrote: > >At Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Toni wrote: >> >>At Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Christine wrote: >>> >>>At Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Toni wrote: >>>> >>>>i am going to address this to my gyn today, I have to, my husband is >>>>VERY understanding, but how long will that last? >>>>It scares me alot, but even last night I was crying again, the pain is >>>>not a double over pain, and this is where I feel like people think I am >>>>crazy, but there was alot of right sided pain last night, and it did >>>>hurt to push there, and it is very low, I wish I could explain it , but >>>>still I have not found the right word, sometimes it feels like a burning >>>>pain, but that is not really the right word. >>>> >>>>I feel pressure when I cross my legs, and still my appetite is terrible, >>>>I wish I had to nerve to ask one of the drs to do a lap, but like I said >>>>even my pain specialist says things have to settle down for awhile. I n >>>>the mean time I worry about my husband. You are right it is hard to >>>>share yourself with someone when you are concerned about this and that, >>>>and I am still dealing with the loss of my mother, chris, I know >>>>everyone has lost a loved one, but this has been so hard to accept the >>>>she died so fast. There was so many things I needed to tell her, she >>>>believed the dr when he said she had the flu, and the night before >>>>surgery, after she had a stroke, she was SO scared, I think we knew she >>>>would not make it, but we did not want her to know, although being on a >>>>ventilator, I know my mohter was not stupid, ut I wish I knew her >>>>thoughts, because she could not talk to us the 3 days we watched her >>>>die! I just MISS her SO much, like my dr said everyone deals different, >>>>and I cannot take the fact she is gone, I guess someday the hurt will >>>>get easier, but rught now it is awful hard! >>>> >>>>Sorry, I went off track! Toni >>> >>>Hi Toni: >>> >>>If it makes you feel better, you don't have to try to explain the pain >>>to me. I know exactly what you mean by the burning feeling, the fact >>>that it is not causing you to "double over" (that might be easier >>>because then they'd see for themselves!) the feelings of pressure. Yours >>>is worse than mine, but I know all these feelings, although I might >>>describe them differently. I wonder if you are looking at a lap to >>>relieve the pain, or reassure you that things are where they are >>>supposed to be. >>>It is harder for me to identify with you about the loss of your mother >>>because I have never lost a person like that who was that close to me. I >>>also think I might approach it differently (i.e. from a spiritual >>>viewpoint) but that's hard to say because I have never experienced it >>>and also don't have any idea where you stand on that viewpoint. This >>>might sound ridiculous to you, but I have lost cats and it has affected >>>me very deeply. I have often said if this is how losing a cat feels, I >>>can't even imagine what losing a person close to you feels like. There >>>was one cat in particular (the only cat of the many cats we've had who >>>actually liked me) who was very special. It took me a long, long time >>>to recover from that. As I said, you might think this ridiculous, but I >>>think I do understand how you feel. >>>I think counseling will (or might) help with these things for you. >>>Depression is known to cause a lack of interest in sex. You might not >>>be *clinically* depressed, so the drugs might not be working for you >>>that way, but you can still have a *situational* depression (i.e. your >>>mother's death, plus your own health problems) I also think there could >>>be a physical problem and you really should bring this up with your gyn. >>> Good Luck! Let us know how it goes >>> >>>Chris >> >>Hi chris, >> >>What kind of physical problem are you talking about, the sex thing, that >>scares me even more than the pain right now, I man can only understand >>for so long, I would think. >> >>I am glad I have found you to talk to even though you may have gotten >>upset with me at times, like I told my sister this morning, I just don't >>feel good, and I am not used to this. It is ruling my life, and I am >>afraid it is going to fall apart soon. That is why I was talking about >>taking too many drugs a month ago, at that time I felt I could not go no >>further, I am past those feelings, and I was ashamed of it, but I felt >>that way then. >> >>The darvocet relieved the pain on my righ side last night, b/c I could >>not even lay on my stomach before that! >>When I try to stretch even alittle, the whole abdominal area, and even >>above the navel, feel VERY tight, do you get that feeling? The pulling >>and burning (ITHINK) is on the right side again this morning, and even >>senekot last night, it hurt so bad to push, but it hurts in the >>adbominal area. Do not understand all these differnt pains, but I just >>hope they find a way to help soon >> >>I think I am wanting a lap to try to help relieve the pain, and reassure >>myself, about the bowels. But they keep telling me that on op reports >>other drs to said, if the gyn knew he could get in, but there was only a >>very small window where they could see through the adhesions, they were >>all over the pelvic area. That is why, they do not want to have to >>convert to laparotomy again! MORE ADHESIONS formed. >> >>I will let you know how it goes later! >> >>Your friend, Toni > >Hi Toni: >I hope your gyn visit went well and will be waiting to hear an update. >By physical problem, I meant hormonal problem. Loss of interest in sex >sometimes occurs when the ERT is not right.(or at menopause) Some women >need testosterone (male hormone)to boost it also. THere is a form of >estrogen called "estraTEST" I hope your gyn brought this up. From what >you said, it seems like your problem is lack of *interest* and not >physical pain. As I said, you went bowling. >No, I don't have any pain in my upper abdomen. The operative reports >said there were no adhesions in the upper or mid abdomen,they were all >in the pelvis. I found a GI forum on the Net where you can ask doctors >questions. It is connected to the cardiac forum that someone on this >endo posted the address for. i wanted to ask an adhesion/partial bowel >obstruction questiion but for some reason I don't get the post option on >my screen. Weird. I'll keep trying. >Even though it hurts a lot in the right side, that doesn't necessarily >mean that all the problems are in the right side. My gyn told me that >most pelvic disorders refer pain to the right side. So you might feel >it on the right side, but the problem could be on the left side. I feel >all my pain on the right side also, about the area of the appendix. It >hurts when you push because you use your abdominal muscles to push and >if you have adhesions attached to your abdominal wall this will pull on >them which will pull on the bowel. > >Chris :<):>):>) No he did not mention estrTEST, he told me that it no wonder, and asked if it hurt during intercourse, and I said yes, he said that I have e nough on my mind, and that I did not need to worry about losing my husband, he said there was nothing he could do about that. Like he said to the anti depressents cause severe libido too, and he said I cannot stop taking them now, and the fact that pretty severe depression has set in, he told me to keep busy and see how long the pain clinics plan of treatment will last, and I asked him his plan of treatment long term, and he told me he wants to see if they can help me deal with the pain first! he said gyn point of view I am healthy, all pap smears come back fine, and that is all his concerns now, as far as a lap, he did not mention it, and I do not need to see him except yeraly, but while this is going on he wants to see me at 6 months, and he said by sept, he hopes there will be new barriers out, he said you do have chronic pelvic pain, and if he had a potent he would do it, when I asked about ultrasound, ct scan, he said I thought I knew him better than that, he would have done it , but they WILL not show adhesions. I guess I will ask the GI dr end of month about the barium enema, ugh, do not want to, but I will ask if it will show the bowel, UPPER anyway, he checked the lower! Toni
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