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Re: [Fwd: Toni--about your adhesions] Elaine

From: Toni (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Jan 7 05:46:44 1999


At Wed, 06 Jan 1999, yenta wrote: >
>Hi Elaine,
>Here Here!!!! LOL Elaine, that was an absolutely wonderful post to Toni.
>Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and concern. I've been
>on this forum for a couple of months and have listened to all that Toni
>has gone through!! She just sounds so miserable. I hope your post will
>prompt her to take necessary action. Elaine may I email you to ask you
>of your surgery? Thank you
>Yenta
>
>Toni,
>If you're reading this post, please go to an EXPERT. I know that your
>gyn is the only kind soul who has been by your side, sounds like he is a
>wonderfully caring person/dr. But as for your surgery, you will be
>doing yourself and your gyn a favor by going to an EXPERT. CATCH THE
>HINT! We say this because we care Toni.
>Now exactly where do you live Toni?
>
>--
>Yenta
>
>At Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Elaine wrote:
>>
>>Toni--
>>I've been following your posts and have noticed that your doctor told
>>you he "could not get thru the adhesions." (not an exact quote)
>>You may have a great doctor for most things, but that comment makes it
>>clear that YOU NEED ANOTHER SURGEON! And yes, I feel like I need to
>>shout, because it's so important! And you need one SOON. (Have you read
>>Gretchen's posts about her last surgery? That's where too many of us
>>end up) It's imperative that you get to an endo specialist. A real one
>>CAN get all those adhesions. And will do a great job fixing any and all
>>bowel problems. It will likely take less than 3 hours and within a
>>couple weeks you'll feel MUCH better. (You might even have a chance to
>>STAY well, if you haven't waited too long and depending on your current
>>overall immune system functioning.)
>>
>>Now, I know that GETTING that surgeon isn't exactly easy in many cases.
>>Email me and I'll tell you who I went to. But a first step might be to
>>corral all the info you can find on what SOME doctors can and DO do
>>about endo lesions and adhesions (and yes, no doubt you have both).
>>I've got a 5 minute video of my very first surgery in 1993 that will
>>make a believer of any skeptical doctor (if you can get him to watch
>>it). There are books by doctors for doctors (such as the one by the
>>Nezhat's) and there are other articles and info from the Endometriosis
>>Association. I'd guess Dr. Perloe's office and web site has info, tho'
>>I personally haven't been there yet. You might also ask the women at
>>WITSENDO, a private endo group where your posts aren't available to
>>every single person on the net.
>>
>>Anyway, if your surgeon will talk to you about it, show him/her the info
>>and ask for advice. Remind him/her about the fact that he/she LEFT
>>adhesions in your abdominal cavity. (No excuse for that, even in the
>>cul-de-sac). And ask if there might be a way he/she could refer you to
>>one of the experts. (All this is a moot point if your insurance will
>>cover out of network without referrals--I'm assuming you've already
>>thought of this)
>>
>>But, before you get too angry that your doctor did not do all the
>>adhesion removal----It IS better NOT to have had the surgery than to
>>have a doctor do a surgical technique that is beyond his/her skill
>>level. In other words...better ignored than butchered. And it sounds
>>as though your doctor is generally a caring individual, so maybe you can
>>work this out together.
>>
>>I'm praying that you'll be able to figure out ways to deal with all the
>>crud that goes with this disease and that you'll find the strength to go
>>forward with the things you figure out you need to do for yourself for
>>your health. I've found that putting those things off costs me more in
>>the long run (more money, more health-risk, more misunderstandings with
>>other people, etc)
>>
>>Hope I haven't been too cranky with this email. It's rare that I get
>>worried enough to write, but when I do it's usually because something in
>>that person's post has triggered a memory from my own 30 year struggle
>>with endo. Email me directly at esgood@TheRamp.net if you like. I'd
>>like to hear more about your situation.
>>
>>--Elaine Good
>

Hi I live in snowy and icy Cinti, Ohio! The weather here is nasty today, and we expect more snow and ice tonight, but not near as bad as chicago, I guess they are all digging out. i have been to alot of drs. they all tell me something differnt, and I guess this is why O am driving everyone nuts, I am sorry, just confused, i know I will have to learn to live with this pain! I am trying to.

Toni






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