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Alternative treatments

From: CHELSEY (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri Nov 20 18:52:35 1998


Lou--First, let me recommend the book "New Choices in Natural Healing" edited by Bill Gottlieb. I hope you can get it in the UK. It has great remedies for everything from IBS and endo to migraines, canker sores, nausea, etc. I use this book all the time for a variety of ailments.

Diet: I eat fish, but no other meat. I eat very little dairy or eggs. If you're going to eat dairy, meat or eggs, make sure they are organic/free range (much healthier & less cruel). Avoid hydroginated oils (found in many canned soups, for example). I eat less than 20 grams of fat daily. Avoid caffiene and refined sugars. Drink at least 8oz water daily (bottled only--artesian is safest). Diet high in fiber, lots of fresh fruit and veggies (including dark green--organic is best of course). Avoid eating out and eating prepared foods. If I crave it, I eat it (a piece of red meat 1 or 2 times/year). I also eat soy for protein. I have begun to eat a lot of pineapple--it's supposed to help reduce endo pain. (dark grape juice is also said to work).

Vitamins: daily calcium and vitamin E. Right now I'm on a 3 month regimin of vitamin megadoses (it's not safe to take large doses any longer than that--can be toxic). 3 month regimin includes C, B6, B Complex, beta carotene, E. After 3 months, I'll just take the daily recommended dose. I also take cod liver oil capsules (3x day). Cod liver oil is high in Omega-3 oils--cancer fighting and good for reducing endo pain. DON'T TAKE TOO MANY VITAMINS. THEY CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO ORGANS, AND CAN CAUSE DAILY PROBLEMS SUCH AS CONSTIPATION. Research any vitamin regimin you plan to take, and ask your doctor. I also refer to a book that is sort of like a PDR for vitamins.

Homeopathy: I take daily doses of 30c Belladonna. 30c Sepia is also said to be a good endo remedy, but I haven't tried it. I also take a Chinese herbal diet supplement to boost my appetite/reduce nausea. My chiopractor/accupuncturist dispenses the herbs.

Acupuncture: I get a weekly treatment lasting from 20-40 min. I just started a new treatment to get rid of allergies. I'll let you know how it goes. I usually have a few days of low pain after the accupuncture. The pain usually doesn't go away completely, but doesn't require much in the way of pain killers. The pain gradually comes back as the week progresses. So far, each treatment has led to an increasing pain free period. At first 1 day of relief. Now 4 days of relief. The treatment itself is very pleasant--I feel no endo pain and am completely relaxed. I even dream during them sometimes.

Exercise: Exercise as much as possible. If you can't run, walk (even just around the block). If you can't walk, try just tightening your muscles when you're sitting/standing around (flexing/unflexing your calves or rear, for example). Also try lifting small things in your hands, such as a can of soup. If that is too much, use your hands to squeeze something resistant (like a ball). Then you can at least exercise your arms. I recommend meeting with a trFrom anonymous@obgyn.net Fri Nov 20 19:52:35 CST 1998 >From anonymous@obgyn.net Fri Nov 20 19:52:35 1998
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Lou--First, let me recommend the book "New Choices in Natural Healing" edited by Bill Gottlieb. I hope you can get it in the UK. It has great remedies for everything from IBS and endo to migraines, canker sores, nausea, etc. I use this book all the time for a variety of ailments.

Diet: I eat fish, but no other meat. I eat very little dairy or eggs. If you're going to eat dairy, meat or eggs, make sure they are organic/free range (much healthier & less cruel). Avoid hydroginated oils (found in many canned soups, for example). I eat less than 20 grams of fat daily. Avoid caffiene and refined sugars. Drink at least 8oz water daily (bottled only--artesian is safest). Diet high in fiber, lots of fresh fruit and veggies (including dark green--organic is best of course). Avoid eating out and eating prepared foods. If I crave it, I eat it (a piece of red meat 1 or 2 times/year). I also eat soy for protein. I have begun to eat a lot of pineapple--it's supposed to help reduce endo pain. (dark grape juice is also said to work).

Vitamins: daily calcium and vitamin E. Right now I'm on a 3 month regimin of vitamin megadoses (it's not safe to take large doses any longer than that--can be toxic). 3 month regimin includes C, B6, B Complex, beta carotene, E. After 3 months, I'll just take the daily recommended dose. I also take cod liver oil capsules (3x day). Cod liver oil is high in Omega-3 oils--cancer fighting and good for reducing endo pain. DON'T TAKE TOO MANY VITAMINS. THEY CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO ORGANS, AND CAN CAUSE DAILY PROBLEMS SUCH AS CONSTIPATION. Research any vitamin regimin you plan to take, and ask your doctor. I also refer to a book that is sort of like a PDR for vitamins.

Homeopathy: I take daily doses of 30c Belladonna. 30c Sepia is also said to be a good endo remedy, but I haven't tried it. I also take a Chinese herbal diet supplement to boost my appetite/reduce nausea. My chiopractor/accupuncturist dispenses the herbs.

Acupuncture: I get a weekly treatment lasting from 20-40 min. I just started a new treatment to get rid of allergies. I'll let you know how it goes. I usually have a few days of low pain after the accupuncture. The pain usually doesn't go away completely, but doesn't require much in the way of pain killers. The pain gradually comes back as the week progresses. So far, each treatment has led to an increasing pain free period. At first 1 day of relief. Now 4 days of relief. The treatment itself is very pleasant--I feel no endo pain and am completely relaxed. I even dream during them sometimes.

Exercise: Exercise as much as possible. If you can't run, walk (even just around the block). If you can't walk, try just tightening your muscles when you're sitting/standing around (flexing/unflexing your calves or rear, for example). Also try lifting small things in your hands, such as a can of soup. If that is too much, use your hands to squeeze something resistant (like a ball). Then you can at least exercise your arms. I recommend meeting with a trainer to develop a program tailored to you and your limits. And remember, even getting dressed in the morning can be difficult with endo. Even if you can't do any more than that, you deserve to be proud of yourself--just living with endo is a major accomplishment. Don't be afraid to try new ways of exercising/using your body. You don't have to jog or go to a club. Consider swimming or walking in a pool, or yoga. Even standing on your toes while washing dishes can be of benefit.

Mental: Talk to a pain management counselor. It really helps me.

This regimin seems to be helping me. Fortunately, I don't have other serious health problems to deal with besides endo (no IBS, fibro, etc.). I was also in great shape to begin with. As a former professional dancer, varsity athlete and high-altitude runner, it is hard to feel so inactive and out of shape now. I've been totally out of commission for 2 months now, but felt well enough to run again for the first time on Sunday. Today I don't feel nearly that good, but just knowing that overall the alternative tretments are helping me to feel better means the world. I was so proud of my Sunday 8 minute mile! Good luck with your own regimin. Let me know how it goes, and feel free to e-mail me w/questions.

--Chelsey

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Whitehill Publishing wrote:

> Chelsey,
>
> Your email mentioned that you are currently using diet, acupuncture and
> homeopathy to deal with endo - this is the path I am about to step onto
> (having started with the diet part and finding great success)!
>
> If you have anything of use that you can share (books/tips/do's and don'ts
> that have worked for you) I would be extremely grateful! BTW I live in the
> UK not the States so we may not have access to the same foods or sources of
> help.
> Thanks in anticipation!
> Lou
> postbox@wh-publishing.demon.co.uk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHELSEY <cbaker@du.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <endo@talk.obgyn.net>
> Date: 17 November 1998 16:23
> Subject: Re: Frustrated
>
> >Danielle--Surgery is no more guaranteed to help than the drug therapies.
> >Usually, though, surgery is the next step after the drug treatments have
> >failed. Also, neither hysterectomy nor pregnancy are a definite fix
> >either. Unfortunately, most of us with endo will have to live with pain
> >for most of our lives--nothing takes care of the problem permanently for
> >all women. I hope you find something that works for you. I'm using diet,
> >accupuncture and homeopathy to keep the pain managable--it's working
> >pretty good so far. Good luck!
> >
> >--Chelsey
> >
>

ainer to develop a program tailored to you and your limits. And remember, even getting dressed in the morning can be difficult with endo. Even if you can't do any more than that, you deserve to be proud of yourself--just living with endo is a major accomplishment. Don't be afraid to try new ways of exercising/using your body. You don't have to jog or go to a club. Consider swimming or walking in a pool, or yoga. Even standing on your toes while washing dishes can be of benefit.

Mental: Talk to a pain management counselor. It really helps me.

This regimin seems to be helping me. Fortunately, I don't have other serious health problems to deal with besides endo (no IBS, fibro, etc.). I was also in great shape to begin with. As a former professional dancer, varsity athlete and high-altitude runner, it is hard to feel so inactive and out of shape now. I've been totally out of commission for 2 months now, but felt well enough to run again for the first time on Sunday. Today I don't feel nearly that good, but just knowing that overall the alternative tretments are helping me to feel better means the world. I was so proud of my Sunday 8 minute mile! Good luck with your own regimin. Let me know how it goes, and feel free to e-mail me w/questions.

--Chelsey

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Whitehill Publishing wrote:

> Chelsey,
>
> Your email mentioned that you are currently using diet, acupuncture and
> homeopathy to deal with endo - this is the path I am about to step onto
> (having started with the diet part and finding great success)!
>
> If you have anything of use that you can share (books/tips/do's and don'ts
> that have worked for you) I would be extremely grateful! BTW I live in the
> UK not the States so we may not have access to the same foods or sources of
> help.
> Thanks in anticipation!
> Lou
> postbox@wh-publishing.demon.co.uk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHELSEY <cbaker@du.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <endo@talk.obgyn.net>
> Date: 17 November 1998 16:23
> Subject: Re: Frustrated
>
> >Danielle--Surgery is no more guaranteed to help than the drug therapies.
> >Usually, though, surgery is the next step after the drug treatments have
> >failed. Also, neither hysterectomy nor pregnancy are a definite fix
> >either. Unfortunately, most of us with endo will have to live with pain
> >for most of our lives--nothing takes care of the problem permanently for
> >all women. I hope you find something that works for you. I'm using diet,
> >accupuncture and homeopathy to keep the pain managable--it's working
> >pretty good so far. Good luck!
> >
> >--Chelsey
> >
>




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