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Re: Abdominal cramping after orgasm
From: E. (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue Jun 30 01:49:11 2009
Before being treated for endo, I used to have this symptom.
The kicker was when you said the pain stuck around, then you had a bm,
then after a period of time it went away. I had the same thing.
It ended up I had endo on my left uterosacral ligament and I believe
it was causing this kind of pain.
If I were you, I would def. talk to an endo expert. The pain
you have now takes 10 or 20 minutes to go away. In a few years, the
pain
can escalate and you can end up vomitting and shaking from being in
severe pain.
It takes longer and longer for the pain to go away if the underlying
endo isn't being treated.
Try to get examined by an endo expert. Endo doesn't go away on its own
and has to be properly treated.
You can check out these expert's websites:
Dr. Cook in CA http://www.pelvicpain.com/
Dr. Lyons in Georgia http://www.thomasllyons.com/procedures.htm
Dr. Robbins in Maine http://www.endoexcision.com/
Dr. Liu in TN http://www.gyndr.com/
and Dr. Redwine http://www.endometriosistreatment.org/
are just some of the excisionists that may be able to help you.
There are two doctors, Dr. Orbuch and Dr. Seckin, who are in
NYC and specialize in endo. You can check them out at
ratemds.com.
At Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Diane wrote:
>
>Oh my gosh, I can't believe I found other women with my exact symptoms!
>I am 36, have pretty much normal periods, other than the fact that about
>3 times a month, I wake in the middle of the night with an orgasm,
>instantnly have cramps after, its starts hurting so bad, so I lay down
>in the shower with hot water hitting my abdomen, then about 3 minutes
>later I have to have to have a bowel movement, get back in the shower
>and lay there in pain, sometimes have to have another BM...in about 20
>minutes I am fine. It hurts so bad that I have hyperventilated before.
>This all happens about a week or a bit more before my period begins.
>After my period ends, I have about 1 or 2 good weeks with no pain or
>orgasms in my sleep. And the weird thing is, the dreams I have that
>make me orgasm are very strangely sexual, things I would never do in
>real life. But I always dread these orgasms because they always end up
>very painful afterwards. Sometimes even before my period begins I get
>menstral cramps from excercise. My older sis has endo and I am pretty
>sure I do too. I never had all the tests she did. I just want these
>oragasms in my sleep to stop! Today I took a nap in the middle of the
>day, and sure enough, I had a sexual dream, orgasm, then instant cramps,
>then having to have a BM.It was awful! It almost feels like the cramps
>wont go away until I BM. But they cramps dont go away instanly after I
>do BM, it takes at least 10-20 minutes or so. I am not due to start for
>a week. Same thing every month. Because of this, I have no intrest in
>sex whatsoever. What to do. :( Thanks for reading. :)
>
>At Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Ann wrote:
>>
>>Hi Lisa,
>>
>>Have a look at the older posts below- you may relate to some of the
>>stories. Best of luck!
>>
>>That's the problem.
>>So many doctors have 'their theories.'
>>While your problem might have changed when you changed medications, you
>>should still look into the probably real reasons : endo in the
>>cul-de-sac or adenomyosis.
>>
>>Esp with the bowel problems. You could also have endo on or in the
>>bowels.
>>
>>At Wed, 31 Dec 2008, Ann wrote: >
>>>I have also had a similar experience - I'm 28 years old, diagnosed with
>>>endometriosis 6 years ago. I had cysts removed shortly after diagnosis
>>>and was on Depot Provera since then until recently. I began to have the
>>>intense cramping pain after orgasm about two years ago. Initially it
>>>was about 50% of the time. As time passed the pain occured after every
>>>orgasm and lasted between 20-40 minutes. I would describe the pain as
>>>unbearable. I never vomitted, but I would always have a bowel movement.
>>>I also always felt very hot and sometimes resorted to lying on the tiled
>>>floors to try and cool down. Occasionally, I would also wake up in the
>>>middle of the night with this pain.
>>>
>>>I eventually went to speak to my gynaecologist. She had never come
>>>across this problem. One possible theory that she had, was that as a
>>>result of being on Depot for so long, the walls of my uterus had become
>>>very thin and this was leading to the pain when the muscles contracted
>>>during orgasm. I came off the Depot (which I was quite nervous about,
>>>because apart from the 'orgasm pain', I had been pain free since my
>>>operation) and I took Estrofem (estrogen) for two months. I then
>>>started on an oral contraceptive (Melodene) and have been taking that
>>>for 6 months. I only take a break between every two cycles. I am happy
>>>to report that close to the end of the two month Estrofem course, I
>>>STOPPED EXPERIENCING THIS PAIN COMPLETELY and have not had it since. Not
>>>once. Not even a hint. My doctor is still not sure exactly what the
>>>problem was- or whether it was solved by coming off the Depot alone, or
>>>taking the Estrofem alone, or a combination of both. But it is solved
>>>for the moment and I am greatly relieved.
>>>
>>>I trawled the internet to try and find some sort of information about
>>>this but could only find the occasional post on a forum reporting the
>>>pain, but no solution. I really hope that what worked for me, helps
>>>some other people that are having this problem.
>>>
>>>At Fri, 26 Dec 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I have never heard of anyone else having my very symptoms. Like each of
>>>>you, my doctors were all stymied. I began having intense pain after
>>>>EVERY orgasm around the age of 25. The pain was so intense it was
>>>>unbearable. I found that if I lay very very still and didn't move a
>>>>muscle and breathed deeply, the spasm would be less intense, but if I
>>>>gave into the urge to get up and walk around to try to escape the pain,
>>>>it was worse. The pain did FEEL also connected to bowels.
>>>>
>>>>I had a laparoscopy showing I did NOT have endom. but had two fibroids
>>>>on my outer uterus. One was removed, but one remained as it was
>>>>attached also to a fallopian tube. The pain was not changed by this.
>>>>
>>>>When I began having children, I found that the pain went away for most
>>>>of my pregnancy. After orgasm, instead of pain, my uterus just blew up
>>>>like a balloon and got very hard (just as in labor). After birth, the
>>>>pain stayed away for a full year and then returned, but not as intense.
>>>>I had one C section and two fully natural vaginal births.
>>>>
>>>>After my last child, the pain began returning at different times, but
>>>>intermittently. Sometimes during intercourse.. sometimes during
>>>>intense physical activity.. but it wasn't consistant. I had a second
>>>>laparoscopy 11 years after the first with a specialist (colorectal...
>>>>the name escapes me..) present along with my OB GYN. Still no endo., no
>>>>adhesions connecting anything. There was nothing that showed up in my
>>>>lap. That was 3 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>Since then, it has developed a pattern. The pains begin about 1.5 weeks
>>>>before the onset of my period. My cycle ranges from 4-5 weeks lately
>>>>although I was very irregular throughout my life. The pains begin
>>>>manageable but progress through the following week and a half to
>>>>unbearable. I try to avoid orgasm during the second half of this period
>>>>of time.
>>>>
>>>>I usually have an urge to pass a bowel movement during the pain spasm,
>>>>and sometimes this makes it go away faster and sometimes not. It is
>>>>still more manageable if I lay very still and breath deeply. My spasm
>>>>used to last around 20 minutes from beginning to peak to normal. After
>>>>the pain goes away I get an almost euphoric feeling. Maybe it is just
>>>>relief.
>>>>
>>>>Lately, at the very end of my "pain cycle" just before my period begins,
>>>>if I do have an orgasm, the spasm ultimately has led to vomiting. I
>>>>don't feel sick to my stomach, but I can feel it begin to contract and
>>>>spasm and then I begin vomiting. This has happened about four times in
>>>>the last year.
>>>>
>>>>For a brief time I got a prescription for codeine and I would CHEW it
>>>>when I felt the spasm coming on. At this point in my life, things other
>>>>than orgasms can bring on the pain spasm. A bowel movement, strenuous
>>>>activity like working out or walking up a flight of stairs, dancing,
>>>>etc. Sometimes it comes on spontaneously with no explanation. I am
>>>>currently in my early 40's
>>>>
>>>>I can't tell you what a relief it is to read of others who have my
>>>>bizarre symptoms. No doctor understands it. It is frustrating to need
>>>>to explain to partners or friends. It is difficult to ask a partner to
>>>>not touch me or talk to me for 15 minutes following my orgasm (during
>>>>that week and a half) until my "cramps" go away.
>>>>
>>>>I am eager to hear more from others.
>>>>
>>>>At Thu, 16 Oct 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 20 Mar 2007, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I note these are quite old messages but I wanted to also mention that I
>>>>>>have a problem with this. I had left sided pain for many years with
>>>>>>intense contraction like pain following orgasms and no other symptoms
>>>>>>and was diagnosed with irritable bowel initially. I eventually had a
>>>>>>laparoscopy and was diagnosed with endometriosis which was treated by
>>>>>>laser surgery which alleviated my symptoms for a year but they have
>>>>>>since returned. the pain I experience after orgasm has also occured
>>>>>>during my sleep and awoken me. the pain is intense and I usually pass a
>>>>>>bowel motion then the pain subsides over about 30mins or so. The
>>>>>>doctors didnt think that it could be related to my endo due to passing
>>>>>>bowel motions but the laser treatment for endo did make it go away for a
>>>>>>while. It is helpful to see I am not the only one with this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Fri, 15 Oct 2004, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This has happened to me once, and the doctor could give me no
>>>>>>>explanation for it. The experience I had was particularly scary and it
>>>>>>>happened not after intercourse but after masturbation. A minute or two
>>>>>>>afterwards I started to get intense pelvic pain which increased until I
>>>>>>>couldn't stand up and was crying with it. I was really scared and ran
>>>>>>>to get my mother - then I felt very sick. I made it to the bathroom and
>>>>>>>was physically sick as well, and had a bowel movement. By this time I
>>>>>>>was experiencing intense pains - I can't think contractions could be
>>>>>>>worse! My body went into shock from the pain, my lips turned white and I
>>>>>>>went freezing cold and I felt woozy and passed out on the floor for
>>>>>>>several minutes. When I came round, I made it to the bathroom and the
>>>>>>>pain subsided, if you can call it that, into intense contractions which
>>>>>>>were coming regularly every minute or two as if I was in advanced
>>>>>>>labour. They were so bad I was doubled over and screaming in pain. It
>>>>>>>did almost seem like something had triggered false labour pains - I
>>>>>>>could feel the contractions in my uterus. These gradually, over the
>>>>>>>course of an hour or two subsided - I went to the doctor when able but
>>>>>>>she could not tell me what was wrong. My period started later the same
>>>>>>>day. Nobody has ever been able to explain this and I wish they could
>>>>>>>becasue it was very frightening. I am glad it has only happened once to
>>>>>>>me.
>>>>>>>I did wonder why it happened - it happened after the end of a
>>>>>>>relationship with a man during which I had experienced other
>>>>>>>gynaecological problems - thrush, cystitis, and also irritation to his
>>>>>>>semen like an allergy - at one point I seemed to get mucus like discarge
>>>>>>>from my cervix but this was ealier than the pelvic pain episode. And
>>>>>>>yes, we did both get ourselves checked out at the sexual health clinic,
>>>>>>>and we didn't have anything wrong or any infection. I did wonder if his
>>>>>>>semen had caused problems in my uterus as well as the external
>>>>>>>irritation and redness I experienced when I has skin contact with it. It
>>>>>>>even happened when it got on my fingers or thighs, I would get red
>>>>>>>patches! I am fine now a couple of years later with another man. Do you
>>>>>>>think whatever caused this wil have gone or should I see a gyno?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At Sat, 1 Mar 2003, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, this happened to me too. I have even thrown up from the pain. I
>>>>>>>>had fibroids and have endo. You probably should have your doctor do a
>>>>>>>>laparscopy to check for endo. Talk to your doctor, he/she will
>>>>>>>>understand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At Sat, 1 Mar 2003, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This person wrote awhile ago, but if anyone out there can relate to
>>>>>>>>>this, please write back. I experience this. I also have pain all
>>>>>>>>>through the month after orgasm. Awake, sleeping and it is excruciating
>>>>>>>>>from anywhere from 20-40 minutes. I really need help- I have tried to
>>>>>>>>>search the internet- no luck except for this. I have not been tested
>>>>>>>>>for endo. I have normal periods, well, severe pms and pain up to 2
>>>>>>>>>weeks before, and get very bloated and gaseous. I am 28 yrs old and
>>>>>>>>>have had this orgasm pain for years. I find it pretty difficult to talk
>>>>>>>>>to doctors about it. They seem to say it's about uncomfortable sexual
>>>>>>>>>positions, or back ache, and then they thought it was irritable bowel. I
>>>>>>>>>am at my wits end. It happend while I'm sleeping! Waking up to intense
>>>>>>>>>pain-- the pain always makes me squirm because it's so intense I can't
>>>>>>>>>sit still- I end up on the foor usually practically crying. It has
>>>>>>>>>gotten so severe I would bet childbirth isn't much more painful. The
>>>>>>>>>pain is exhausting. After the pain, I am completely fine. It's nuts. A
>>>>>>>>>dr. wanted to put me on the pill and i said no. I have small fibroids
>>>>>>>>>--- so small, they only found them when I asked for an ultrsound. They
>>>>>>>>>said to small to cause this pain.
>>>>>>>>>I think I need to go for a laproscopy and find out. The thing is, I
>>>>>>>>>feel like this is the only symptom I have that is truly endo-like, but I
>>>>>>>>>guess there aren't always symptoms.
>>>>>>>>>Does anyone out there think this orgasm pain can be endo?
>>>>>>>>>I don't know what else it can be. I am a healthy 28 year old. Do you
>>>>>>>>>think I should get the laproscopy?
>>>>>>>>>Please write if you can tell me any shared experiences. Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At Sun, 6 May 2001, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm writing for the first time hoping someone else out there may have
>>>>>>>>>>experienced something similar. My pain with endo in excruciating after
>>>>>>>>>>orgasm. Since the onset of this disease 9 years ago I have had orgasms
>>>>>>>>>>in my sleep resulting in severe pain and a sleepless night. The orgasms
>>>>>>>>>>always occur around day 23 of my cycle. Recently we've been trying to
>>>>>>>>>>concieve and every time I feel the egg has implanted, I get this orgasm
>>>>>>>>>>in my sleep followed by severe pain and the next few days my pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>symptoms are gone, and I get my period. I've had surgery, Lupron, and
>>>>>>>>>>the clomid, IUI ordeal. I'm sure we concieved this month but I had an
>>>>>>>>>>orgasm in my sleep two nights ago. I'll have to wait and see. So
>>>>>>>>>>frustrating and sooo weird. It's like this disease doesn't want me to
>>>>>>>>>>get pregnant, like it has a mind of its own. Creepy. Any suggestions
>>>>>>>>>>anyone?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Ann
>>
>>At Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Lisa wrote:
>>>
>>>I've been diagnosed with endo and have dealt with a myriad of symptoms.
>>>
>>>Recently I have had abdominal cramping and pain after orgasm. Even if
>>>penetration never took place. Is this normal? Has anyone else
>>>experienced this?
>>>
>>>Also, I have the same abdominal cramping, sharp pains after bowel
>>>movements. Is this normal???
>>>
>>>I'd appreciate feedback? Thanks.
>>>
>>>--
>>>lisamaharpermer@yahoo.com
>>>
>>--
>>Ann
>>
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