Re: Endo and Celiac disease - a link? IBS
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From: Scarlett (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Jun 4 00:17:09 2009
You can think whatever you like, however I gave you the scientific
explanation as to what is really going on. Use it as you will.
At Wed, 3 Jun 2009, anonymous wrote:
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>That's great.
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>But I think she's right.
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>At Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Scarlett wrote:
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>>I know, I have read the book too, but I disagree with her on that point.
>>I am a nutritionist as well, and specialize in women's health nutrition.
>>
>>At Wed, 3 Jun 2009, anonymous wrote:>>I am not saying it, the woman I
>>consider to be a diet and endo expert is>saying it. She is
>>amazing.>>What is your background?>>At Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Scarlett
>>wrote:>>>>I understand what you are saying, however I disagree and
>>believe>>wheat/gluten are inflammatory triggers and alter inflammatory
>>hormones>>(PG series and cytokines) which in turn exacerbate pain and
>>inflammation>>of the implants and pelvic cavity. Yes, conventionally
>>grown and>>refined grain do contribue to xenoestrogen load and phytic
>>acid binds>>with minerals and inhibits absorption, but I do not believe
>>the phytic>>acid contributes to estrogen dominance directly, or else
>>foods like most>>grains, beans, flax, spinach and soy (yes, very
>>contraversial I know)>>would also be black listed. Phytic acid can also
>>be removed by soaking>>with a pinch of Celtic sea salt, so if you are
>>properly preparing your>>grains, beans and veg I do not believe that it
>>will cause a problem.>>>>At Tue, 2 Jun 2009, anonymous wrote:>>I
>>understand and agree, but she>>also said this,>>''But there’s something
>>different. I think there may>>be the hormones in>the wheat or the
>>phytic acid is locking up some of>>the minerals but>certainly there
>>seems to be some modality with wheat>>and endometriosis.>It’s almost as
>>though something within wheat
>>is>>exacerbating>>the>implant.">>http://www.endometriosis.org/nutrition.html>>At
>>Tue, 2>>Jun 2009, Scarlett wrote:>>>>It is more that wheat is
>>highly>>inflammatory (leading to PG2 series) and>>a very common IgG
>>allergen in>>many women with endo. Often times when>>one is allergic to
>>wheat, they>>are allergic to gluten as well.>>>>At Tue, 2 Jun 2009,
>>anonymous>>wrote:>>>>>>i think dian mills says that wheat has some kind
>>of>>hormonal>>>properties....>>>>>>At Tue, 2 Jun 2009,
>>Scarlett>>wrote:>>>>>>>>Here is a study corolating having endometriosis
>>as a risk>>facter for>>>>comorbid celiac disease. Not surprising when
>>you know>>that many of us>>>>with endo cannot tolerate wheat
>>or>>gluten.>>>>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19400413?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>>>>>>>>At>>Fri,
>>29 May 2009, anonymous wrote:>>>>>>>>>annlouise.com has a few
>>good>>books, one of them is 'gut flush plan'>>>>>>>>>>At Thu, 28 May
>>2009,>>Caitlin wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>If you display the symptoms, the doctor
>>should>>be happy to test you.>>>>>>When it was suspected I had IBS, she
>>said she>>would do the Celiac panel>>>>>>to rule it out. Celiac is
>>"treatable",>>IBS is not. So naturally, any>>>>>>doctor would want to
>>rule out all>>possibilities before making a>>>>>>diagnosis of IBS.
>>Because IBS really>>has no test to diagnose, it is>>>>>>usually only
>>diagnosed after all>>other possibilities have
>>been>>>>>>eliminated.>>>>>>>>>>>>Best of luck>>to
>>you!>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>Caitlin>>>>>>>>>>>>At Wed, 27 May
>>2009,>>anonymous wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How did you get your doctor to
>>recommend>>the test? I called mine and>>>>>>>asked for it because my
>>first cousin>>was diagnosed with it, and I still>>>>>>>haven't heard
>>back from my MD. >>I'll have to call again and insist. I>>>>>>>have had
>>a lot of>>intestinal issues too, and I really wonder if this
>>has>>>>>>>had an>>impact. I hope you find much improvement with
>>your>>symptoms.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At Tue, 26 May 2009,
>>Caitlin>>wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Debbie,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had my endoscopy
>>and>>biopsy Friday and sure enough, I have Celiac. I'm>>>>>>>>so
>>relieved>>it's not IBS. At least w/ Celiac, you can control it
>>by>>>>>>>>adopting>>a gluten free diet, which I've already started to
>>do>>>>>>>>immediately>>following my diagnosis on
>>Friday.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My mother who has>>suffered from IBS for approx.
>>27 years is going to>>>>>>>>get tested>>for Celiac. Her doc did the
>>blood tests 27 years ago when>>>>>>>>she>>first displayed symptoms but
>>the markers are so much better now>>she>>>>>>>>has decided to
>>get>>re-tested.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>>>Caitlin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At Tue,
>>19>>May 2009, Debbie wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Caitlin and thanks for
>>your>>reply. It's interesting to hear your>>>>>>>>>experiences as I'm
>>gig>>through something similar myself. My doctor
>>has>>>>>>>>>recommended the>>blood test, endoscopy and biopsy too. I
>>have been>>>>>>>>>avoiding>>wheat religiously for over a year now, but
>>it doesn't seem to>>>>>>>>>be>>ebough, and I'm shocked how much gluten
>>is in everyday>>foods.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I always dismissed myself having
>>Celiac but now>>I'm not so sure. I>>>>>>>>>thought avoiding wheat was
>>enough but now I>>don't think it is so I'm>>>>>>>>>doing more research
>>and seeing if its>>common to have both diseases>>>>>>>>>because of the
>>autoimmune link. I>>get the extreme bloating where I look>>>>>>>>>very
>>pregnant and I put>>this down to lactose intolerance, but now I
>>have>>>>>>>>>discovered that>>lactose intolerance goes hand in hand with
>>celiac and>>>>>>>>>I've been>>getting bloating despite avoiding dairy
>>products. I've also>>>>>>>>>had>>a lot of bowel issues but my colon was
>>clear of Endo in my>>laps.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for your input and
>>good luck with your>>endoscopy! Let us
>>know>>>>>>>>>what>>happens.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>>>>Debbie>>>>>>>>>=+=+=+>>>>>>>>>At>>Tue,
>>19 May 2009,
>>Caitlin>>wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Debbie,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is so
>>funny you>>ask this question! I logged on and was going to
>>post>>>>>>>>>>the same>>exact thing. I have stage 3 Endo and have
>>always had>>bowel>>>>>>>>>>issues. I had a Colonoscopy to rule out endo
>>in the>>colon (negative)>>>>>>>>>>and was told it could be IBS. The
>>gastro doc>>ran a blood test for>>>>>>>>>>Celiac just to be sure and
>>turns out I was>>way above normal levels so>>>>>>>>>>this friday I am
>>going to have an>>endoscopy w/ biopsy to either confirm>>>>>>>>>>or rule
>>out>>Celiac.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As for symptoms, extreme bloating
>>(randomly)>>to the point where I look 7>>>>>>>>>>or 8 mos. pregnant.
>>Stomach pains>>(gas pains, pressure) and sporadic>>>>>>>>>>diarreah.
>>There is always a>>possibility this could be due to Endo on>>>>>>>>>>the
>>bowel or adhesions>>but will know for sure if it's
>>Celiac>>after>>>>>>>>>>Friday.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had no idea but
>>women w/>>Celiac have a higher rate of miscarriage,>>>>>>>>>>C-sections
>>and>>infertility. I also know that a diet low in wheat
>>is>>>>>>>>>>often>>recommended for Endo patients, so I too wonder if
>>there is>>a>>>>>>>>>>connection between Celiac and
>>Endo.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll>>let you know what I
>>find>>out!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>>>>>Caitlin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At
>>Mon,>>18 May 2009, Debbie wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does anyone know
>>of>>there is a link between Endo and Celiac disease?>>>>>>>>>>>Does
>>anyone>>have Celiac disease and if so what symptoms did you
>>have>>and>>>>>>>>>>>did you confuse them with Endo symptoms
>>at>>all?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>>>>>>Debbie>>>>>>>>>>>=+=+=+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>>>>>>Caitlin>>>>>>>>>>
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