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Re: LAP & SCARRING: CAN GETTING LAP KEEP YOU FROM GETTING PREGNANT
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Jan 28 12:54:48 2009
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At Wed, 28 Jan 2009, anonymous wrote:
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>Consider sending your records to the CEC, or consulting another endo
>expert. Just because a doctor didn't see endo, doesn't mean you don't
>have it. An endo expert is so much more familiar with its locations and
>forms.
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>What part of the country are you in?
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>centerforend.com helped me
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>erc.activboard.com/
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>At Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Jacinda. wrote:
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>>At Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Pamela wrote:
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>>>Sami,
>>>
>>>Thanks alot. Its nice to know that someone else knows how I am feeling.
>>>I am scheduled to have my Lap on April 27th. I think he said he is
>>>going to burn it out & he mentioned something about lasering the Endo (I
>>>am guessing he is going to do Laser Ablation). I am just excited to
>>>have it done to be able to get rid of all this pain & various other
>>>things related to the pain that I have been going through. It sounds
>>>like you have been through quite alot. And, from what I have read on
>>>the forum some of the others have been through quite a lot too. I will
>>>keep trying to have children as long as I can. My husband & I are
>>>hoping to start trying again immediately after my surgery as soon as my
>>>doctor says it is ok. You have spoke about the IVF program. What is
>>>that? Is is something like a fertility clinic? Is it very expensive. It
>>>is a possibility that I myself may not be able to have children (I am so
>>>hoping though that is not the case) & if so I would like to know about
>>>this IVF program for that reason.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Pamela
>>>
>>>At Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Sami wrote:
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>>>>At Tue, 18 Apr 2006, loretta wrote:
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>>>>>At Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Pamela wrote:
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>>>>>>To whoever wants to listen & whoever wants to answer!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am a little concerned after reading some of the posts on here. I have
>>>>>>been pregnant before but lost it after 6 weeks (I was supposed to be 9
>>>>>>weeks along). Everything seemed to be going fine & then I was at work
>>>>>>one day & had to use the restroom & I was bleeding like crazy (did not
>>>>>>know at all). I went to the ER & they said I was having a miscarriage
>>>>>>(I had the complete miscarriage that night). Now, the Reproductive
>>>>>>Endocrinologist is 95% sure that I have Endo & I am scheduled to have a
>>>>>>Lap on April 25th. Is is possible that being my 1st Lap that I could
>>>>>>have very bad scarring that would make it a little harder to get
>>>>>>pregnant? Just wondering because my husband & I really want to have
>>>>>>children really bad. I do know though that I was able to get pregnant
>>>>>>but not carry the baby (My Reproductive Endocrinologist said that had
>>>>>>nothing to do with Endo). He said that had to be something else? I
>>>>>>thought maybe it has to do with my chronic UTI problems & bacteria in my
>>>>>>urine that could have caused me to miscarry. I do not know. And, I
>>>>>>think all of that is also related to the Endo. Could that be possible?
>>>>>>Just an idea: Could it be possible that a person has Endo. When that
>>>>>>Endo spreads to different parts of a persons body, that person starts
>>>>>>having alot of other physical problems with no explanation of why they
>>>>>>have them in their body, such as (bacteria,etc) that get in the
>>>>>>(urine,etc), which in return causes that person to have difficulty
>>>>>>getting pregnant or they cause so much bacteria that when they do get
>>>>>>pregnant they end up having a miscarriage because of the bacteria that
>>>>>>got into the womb? I do not know. I guess I just think too much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Pamela
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Dearest Pamela
>>>>>No, I wouldn't say you think too much,
>>>>> I would say you are searching for answers and looking for any way to explain
>>>>> what you are going thru.
>>>>>First let me say I am very sorry for your losses. But it is not the end,
>>>>>keep trying, one day it may very well be all worth it.
>>>>>Your question about scarring after a lap is a valid question that not many
>>>>>women ask. I didn't and regret it. While A (1)uncomplicated lap, generally
>>>>>should not cause severe enough scarring to hamper fertility, multiple laps do
>>>>>increase the chances as every lap does leave some scarring. The extent of it
>>>>> is very individual. Some women are more prone to adhesion's, other factors
>>>>>such as repeated lap's, infections, vigorous handling of organs, etc...can
>>>>>also increase scar tissue formation. In my case I formed severe and extensive
>>>>> adhesion's with every lap and it did very much effect my fertility as the
>>>>>adhesion's closed my tubes, and bound my reproductive organs.
>>>>>Now I am faced with stage 4 endo but as well severe adhesion's to my entire
>>>>> pelvic area and totally bound my bowel/intestines.
>>>>>Many of my surgery's have been to try to clean up the adhesion's left by
>>>>> operations to restore my fertility and deal with ovarian cysts and endo.
>>>>>I am the first to warn those going in for multiple surgery's to really think
>>>>> about their decisions as the adhesions left by these surgery's that are
>>>>>meant to help may as in my case in the end cause more and more severe problems
>>>>>in the end. It is good that you ask those questions as it is a valid worry.
>>>>> I do however think a lap that has no complications should have a small risk
>>>>> that the scar tissue left behind would hurt your fertility.
>>>>>Good luck, I pray all works out for you.
>>>>>Health and healing...Loretta
>>>>>
>>>>Dear Pamela,
>>>>I undersatnd your concern, i am 28 & have had 5 Laporoscopies, 5
>>>>Hysteroscoipes, 5 D&C & lazer Abilation for severe aggresive Eno almost
>>>>everyhere inside!
>>>>
>>>>I am so sorr for our loss i wish you great success in your quest to
>>>>MOtherhood.
>>>>
>>>>All i can can is that as this is your 1st Lap, & as yet you are
>>>>undiagnosed with Endometriosis I believe it is importat that you allow
>>>>yourself to get the answers as to what is going on inside your own body.
>>>>
>>>>I do not have any children, and have the intention to embark upon the
>>>>IVF program one day. But I do know that from the surgeries I have
>>>>always had blocked Fallopian Tubes due to Endo, and other obvious
>>>>complications.
>>>>
>>>>If i hadn't had the surgery i feel as though
>>>>1) I would NEVER know what was happening to my body
>>>>2) That there was treatment available
>>>>3) That there is hope that i can have children one day & tha there was a
>>>>reason (Endo) why it was not happening even though tried so hard.....
>>>>
>>>>my Mother experienced a number of miscarriages between me & my broter &
>>>>both of my Aunts also. I was raised to understand that when a baby does
>>>>not reach full-term due to a miscarrage, it is natures way of saying
>>>>that it was not ready to be born. Nonetheless, it does not make it any
>>>>easier, i jusr wanted to say it is possible that yor body didn;t do
>>>>anything wrong as such...
>>>>
>>>>take care & good luck,
>>>>Best Wishes Sami koala
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>>I am 20 years old and had my first lap in december 08 , it was to
>>confirm endo or not and from sight they couldnt find anything, but did
>>find that my tubes are closed. Yesterday 27 jan i had a follow up with
>>a fertility surg. and they took a biopsy from the lap and that has
>>shown that i do have endo but just more sevre and they couldnt see it.
>>So now i have to go for a Hysterosalpingogram next week.
>>Im still so young to think about having children right now but i have
>>done evrything to avoid being a young mum and i wanted to get a career
>>and travel and be financilly secure first and now it looks like im going
>>to be going thourgh more procedures just to even get the chance... Im
>>so lost please help..
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