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Re: DR REDWINE? - Um, No
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Mon Jan 26 21:33:10 2009
annie, this message is uncalled for. How would you like it if someone
wrote as a subject line 'dr sinvero - um, no' just because they don't
take insurance.
what are you adding here?
At Mon, 26 Jan 2009, annie wrote:
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>seriously, you guys dont have anything better or more constructive to
>talk about.we need to learn to talk to one another in a more respectful
>empathetic way and respect everyones opinions. why argue about this
>stuff. if your on this page to criticize others and not help others
>deal with endo get off this page. we dont need all this negativity.
>At Mon, 26 Jan 2009, CindyTN wrote:
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>>Well, your opinion is your opinion and mine is mine. You can call me
>>sarcastic and I can continue to believe that you were. As a matter of
>>fact, I can indeed speak on behalf of a LOT of doctors because you don't
>>know what industry or profession I work in and what my specific role is
>>for my organization. I'm not going to go posting my personal position
>>and organization on a public message board, but I can say that I have
>>been doing this work and know first-hand the reasons why doctors refuse
>>to file or do file insurance. If you don't believe me or you want to
>>continue to put me down, then that's your personal problem. I have
>>helped a lot of women over the past 18+ years I've been, not only an
>>endo patient and support group leader in my community, but also after
>>the 18+ years that I've worked in this industry.
>>
>>I find it rather appalling that this message board seems like nothing
>>more than an advertisement for Dr. Redwine and his staff. He is not
>>the only qualified specialist out there and for people to put down all
>>the other qualified physicians in the field of Endometriosis care and
>>research is just down-right negligent.
>>
>>Again, a doctor being "new" or not "new" has absolutely nothing to do
>>with if they take insurance or not. Dr. Dan Martin has been in
>>practice for over 20 years, and he still files insurance. MOST doctors
>>file insurance. Very few of them don't.
>>
>>At Mon, 26 Jan 2009, anonymous wrote:
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>>>Didn't the person say the husband was ''willing'' to travel? That's what
>>>struck me....sarcastic? I don't think so. I find your tone on the
>>>sarcastic side, when what was done was a mere question was asked.
>>>
>>>I don't think a lot of people liked the subject title or the tone of the
>>>post itself.
>>>
>>>Dr Robbins is ''new.'' Redwine and the CEC have been doing excision
>>>surgery for more than two decades. Robbins IS ''new.'' He's also
>>>further away for a lot of people. It's wonderful that he helps people,
>>>but let's see if he's still taking insurance in a few years. Dr Orbuch
>>>most likely takes insurance for the same reasons.
>>>
>>>Your tone below is sarcastic and condescending. You can't possibly know
>>>all the reasons a doctor does something, but you're pretending that you
>>>do know. How interesting. You can't speak for endo docs, especially
>>>when many doctors have info on their sites about why they charge the way
>>>they do.
>>>
>>>So interesting how you jump on people with inconsiderate and
>>>condescending wording.
>>>
>>>And many women don't have enough support, so I'm sure that was why the
>>>question was asked. Perhaps this husband does not support the woman?
>>>That happens often sadly.
>>>
>>>At Sun, 25 Jan 2009, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Each family has unique circumstances, and I can think of many reasons
>>>>why a husband may not travel with his wife out of state for medical
>>>>help. For instance, maybe their JOB and taking care of the kids
>>>>prevents him from doing so. Not everybody has a lot of family/friend
>>>>support during a difficult time to help with the kids and maintain an
>>>>income. I found your tone and message a little on the sarcastic side,
>>>>without thinking of circumstances that other people may be going
>>>>through.
>>>>
>>>>Also, the comment you made about Dr. Robbins (and I don't know this dr)
>>>>taking insurance because he is "new," well, that is just ridiculous. The
>>>>only reason why a doctor would NOT accept any type of insurance is
>>>>because A) he doesn't want to be held accountable to the rules and rate
>>>>tables that insurance companies impose B) he doesn't want to agree to
>>>>reduce his rate down to the "reasonable and customary" charges, even
>>>>when his rate is over the usual and customary rate for services in his
>>>>area C) he doesn't want the hassle of filing insurance claims. He wants
>>>>his money up front and wants to forget about anything other than
>>>>providing medical care.
>>>>
>>>>MOST doctors file insurance. They may not be on every insurance
>>>>network, but I would personally never see a doctor who didn't file
>>>>insurance. Contrary to the suggestion you made in your statement,
>>>>doctors don't just stop taking insurance when they are no longer "new"
>>>>doctors. In my profession, I have direct access to thousands and
>>>>thousands of doctors. I don't know a single one of them who refuses to
>>>>file insurance, and many of them are "experts" in their field and have
>>>>been for 20 years or more. In today's economy, a doctor who thinks he
>>>>is so great that he doesn't have to file insurance for his patients,
>>>>that doctor is shooting his own foot in an economy where people can
>>>>hardly afford their insurance premiums, much less the complete cost of a
>>>>medical procedure without insurance being filed.
>>>>
>>>>Why should anybody have to worry about paying a substantial amount of
>>>>money out of their own pocket, when there are plenty of qualified
>>>>physicians who will file insurance and let you pay your copay only? Dr.
>>>>Redwine is NOT the only doctor in the United States who is qualified to
>>>>treat Endometriosis. There are many other experts in this field who are
>>>>equally as qualified and who will file your insurance for you.
>>>>
>>>>At Sun, 25 Jan 2009, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Confused - how could a husband NOT travel with his wife for help? Where
>>>>>else should he be but by her side?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robbins is ''new'' in some sense, and that is probably why he takes
>>>>>insurance. I'd like to see if he still does it in the years to come.
>>>>>That's not a knock against him, it's just the business. Dr Orbuch also
>>>>>takes insurance and she too is ''new.''
>>>>>
>>>>>You can always do an appeal with your insurance company for out of
>>>>>network. the CEC does this for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>They also do not require a full amount up front.
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