Re: Dick and Jane?
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun Dec 28 02:19:24 2008
LOL, how do you know what I read? i told you, I read to the point where
you started making false statements, and then stopped.
Don't tell me I didn't read 'any' of it when I told you I read to the
point where you started making false statements.
wow, do you even read others' posts?
At Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Leyna wrote:
>
>You didn't read any of it. I didn't say that there weren't any methods
>that were helpful, I said that nothing was guaranteed 100% effective...
>which is a fact, because even women who have excisions done by
>specialists can have recurrences. But surgeries and lupron was not what
>my post was about. I was trying to encourage people to be more
>courteous to each other because there's too much friction here lately
>from people who are expressing their (good or bad, doesn't matter)
>opinions much too strongly.
>
>Criticizing a post without reading it is also not very courteous, and
>not something I would not do to you. Just so you know.
>
>Sun, 21 Dec 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>Again, it's not possible to read past where you start to say that no
>>''method'' is helpful. Not true. Lupron is NOT comparable to surgery.
>>Lurpon IN NO way removes endo! Please learn more before making these
>>vast assessments.
>>
>>At Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Leyna wrote:
>>>
>>>WOW
>>>
>>>I wish I didnt feel the need to post this. But this is on everyone's
>>>behalf. A reminder to be COURTEOUS and RESPECTFUL as well as
>>>INFORMATIVE and SUPPORTIVE.
>>>
>>>What's totally ok, awesome and kosher- sharing what you know, asking
>>>questions with an open mind as to what you'll get from answers, having a
>>>sense of humor, being sensitive to other's circumstances and accepting
>>>of differences
>>>
>>>What's really not ok, not awesome at all and doesn't belong here-
>>>conspiracy theories, pointing fingers, drama queens, criticism that is
>>>personal and not at all constructive, meanies
>>>
>>>FOR EXAMPLE: I understand that excision surgery with an endo specialist
>>>has the highest chances of relieving a woman of her endo problems but
>>>there are some people who profess it to be a cure (which is incorrect...
>>>endo HAS NO CURE), or profess it to be the ONLY good thing one can do
>>>for themself (which also is not necessarily true).
>>>
>>>Be it Lupron, excision, hysterectomies, bc, whatever... there isn't a
>>>single thing that we talk about here that is guaranteed to have a
>>>specfic effect 100% of the time, no matter how bad or good your personal
>>>experience was. Please keep this in mind.
>>>
>>>I think that the core message isn't wrong to say or bad, the
>>>person/people saying stuff like that just need... a little more tact.
>>>
>>>FOR EXAMPLE: On a different forum I once read a terribly typed post
>>>where a woman whose gyno had just suggested to her that she might be
>>>having problems because of endo. She researched it just enough to find
>>>out two things: that it can cause infertility and that sometimes women
>>>have to have hysterectomies b/c of it. Her post was along these lines:
>>>"OMG like my life will just simply end if I can't have babies and I'm so
>>>upset I want babies oh no my uterus oh no help me get pregnant!"
>>>
>>>I -personally- was irritated at this poster because I thought she was
>>>being insensitive... she might not be able to have kids and was upset
>>>while most of the other people she was complaining to can't have a day
>>>without being in terrible pain, let alone think about kids... And don't
>>>get me started about contributing to overpopulation versus adopting.
>>>
>>>BUT... BUT... I DIDNT SAY ANY OF THAT. CAN ANYONE GUESS WHY?? Because
>>>offending people isn't nice or helpful in any way and it's not what this
>>>place is for. She came for help, not for someone to flip her the bird
>>>verbally.
>>>
>>>INSTEAD, I told her not to worry, that hyterectomies were an extreme
>>>treatment for extreme cases and that many women were able to conceive
>>>even with endo... that she should have a lap to see about the endo and
>>>if she had trouble getting pregnant to see a fertility specialist who
>>>could help with fertility treatments.
>>>
>>>FOR EXAMPLE, concerning Lupron and its controversy:
>>>OK: Lupron is a really dangerous drug, lots of women have permanent side
>>>effects from it. You should research it and read some personal
>>>testimonies before you decide you really want to use it, and make sure
>>>you read the manufacturer's prescribing directions.
>>>
>>>NOT OK: YOUR EYEBROWS WILL MELT OFF AND NEVER GROW BACK IF YOU TAKE
>>>IIIIITTTT@!!!! THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE NINJAS, THEY HAVE YOUR
>>>DOCTOR'S PUPPY HOSTAGE SO HE HAS TO GET YOU TO TAKE LUPRON OR HE WONT
>>>GET HIS PUPPY BACK! ITS NOT ACTUALLY BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO GET BETTER!
>>>YOU FOOL! LUPRON IS WHAT SATAN DRINKS FOR BREAKFAST!!!111!
>>>
>>>Alright... I tried to end it humorously so I admit the last one was way
>>>more over the top than anyone here ever actually has been for comedic
>>>effect, but I hope everyone gets what I'm saying by now? I mean
>>>really... there's no reason for some of these nasty posts. If you feel
>>>like posting garbage like that, you shouldn't post.
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