Re: Dick and Jane?
From: Leyna (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun Dec 28 00:16:51 2008
You didn't read any of it. I didn't say that there weren't any methods
that were helpful, I said that nothing was guaranteed 100% effective...
which is a fact, because even women who have excisions done by
specialists can have recurrences. But surgeries and lupron was not what
my post was about. I was trying to encourage people to be more
courteous to each other because there's too much friction here lately
from people who are expressing their (good or bad, doesn't matter)
opinions much too strongly.
Criticizing a post without reading it is also not very courteous, and
not something I would not do to you. Just so you know.
Sun, 21 Dec 2008, anonymous wrote:
>
>Again, it's not possible to read past where you start to say that no
>''method'' is helpful. Not true. Lupron is NOT comparable to surgery.
>Lurpon IN NO way removes endo! Please learn more before making these
>vast assessments.
>
>At Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Leyna wrote:
>>
>>WOW
>>
>>I wish I didnt feel the need to post this. But this is on everyone's
>>behalf. A reminder to be COURTEOUS and RESPECTFUL as well as
>>INFORMATIVE and SUPPORTIVE.
>>
>>What's totally ok, awesome and kosher- sharing what you know, asking
>>questions with an open mind as to what you'll get from answers, having a
>>sense of humor, being sensitive to other's circumstances and accepting
>>of differences
>>
>>What's really not ok, not awesome at all and doesn't belong here-
>>conspiracy theories, pointing fingers, drama queens, criticism that is
>>personal and not at all constructive, meanies
>>
>>FOR EXAMPLE: I understand that excision surgery with an endo specialist
>>has the highest chances of relieving a woman of her endo problems but
>>there are some people who profess it to be a cure (which is incorrect...
>>endo HAS NO CURE), or profess it to be the ONLY good thing one can do
>>for themself (which also is not necessarily true).
>>
>>Be it Lupron, excision, hysterectomies, bc, whatever... there isn't a
>>single thing that we talk about here that is guaranteed to have a
>>specfic effect 100% of the time, no matter how bad or good your personal
>>experience was. Please keep this in mind.
>>
>>I think that the core message isn't wrong to say or bad, the
>>person/people saying stuff like that just need... a little more tact.
>>
>>FOR EXAMPLE: On a different forum I once read a terribly typed post
>>where a woman whose gyno had just suggested to her that she might be
>>having problems because of endo. She researched it just enough to find
>>out two things: that it can cause infertility and that sometimes women
>>have to have hysterectomies b/c of it. Her post was along these lines:
>>"OMG like my life will just simply end if I can't have babies and I'm so
>>upset I want babies oh no my uterus oh no help me get pregnant!"
>>
>>I -personally- was irritated at this poster because I thought she was
>>being insensitive... she might not be able to have kids and was upset
>>while most of the other people she was complaining to can't have a day
>>without being in terrible pain, let alone think about kids... And don't
>>get me started about contributing to overpopulation versus adopting.
>>
>>BUT... BUT... I DIDNT SAY ANY OF THAT. CAN ANYONE GUESS WHY?? Because
>>offending people isn't nice or helpful in any way and it's not what this
>>place is for. She came for help, not for someone to flip her the bird
>>verbally.
>>
>>INSTEAD, I told her not to worry, that hyterectomies were an extreme
>>treatment for extreme cases and that many women were able to conceive
>>even with endo... that she should have a lap to see about the endo and
>>if she had trouble getting pregnant to see a fertility specialist who
>>could help with fertility treatments.
>>
>>FOR EXAMPLE, concerning Lupron and its controversy:
>>OK: Lupron is a really dangerous drug, lots of women have permanent side
>>effects from it. You should research it and read some personal
>>testimonies before you decide you really want to use it, and make sure
>>you read the manufacturer's prescribing directions.
>>
>>NOT OK: YOUR EYEBROWS WILL MELT OFF AND NEVER GROW BACK IF YOU TAKE
>>IIIIITTTT@!!!! THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE NINJAS, THEY HAVE YOUR
>>DOCTOR'S PUPPY HOSTAGE SO HE HAS TO GET YOU TO TAKE LUPRON OR HE WONT
>>GET HIS PUPPY BACK! ITS NOT ACTUALLY BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO GET BETTER!
>>YOU FOOL! LUPRON IS WHAT SATAN DRINKS FOR BREAKFAST!!!111!
>>
>>Alright... I tried to end it humorously so I admit the last one was way
>>more over the top than anyone here ever actually has been for comedic
>>effect, but I hope everyone gets what I'm saying by now? I mean
>>really... there's no reason for some of these nasty posts. If you feel
>>like posting garbage like that, you shouldn't post.
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