Re: infertility specialists dont know what LAPEX is
From: NWeber (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Dec 24 20:54:34 2008
There is one thing that needs to be cleared up here, so that
misinformation isn't spread through this topic. Laser surgery is in no
way the same as LAPEX (excision surgery.)
A traditional laser does nothing for endo. It burns it off by way of
vaporization, then comes right back, and many patients experience worse
symptoms after laser or burning surgeries. LAPEX(excision surgery)
removes deep down the implants of the endometriosis. This is the reason
it works well and places like the CEC and Dr. Redwine.
Most RE's do not know the correct way to remove endo, many remove it by
typical lasers or by burning. This is the common problem with this
disease, we take the word of RE's or regular OBGYN's and think that they
know what they are doing. With this disease, you must understand that
excision is the only successful way to remove this disease, and even at
times, in difficult cases, it can come back. However, the timeline is
much better with excision surgery. Some people have one excision
surgery and never need another, some it lasts five years. Each person
is different.
Please research and understand the difference between lasers and LAPEX.
These instruments are not the same.
Dr. Redwine's site or the CEC is a great place for explanation.
At Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Kristy wrote:
>
>Some of the top endo specialists are also infertility specialists like
>Dr. Perloe also in Atlanta (which I am not sure if he's still
>practicing right now).
>
>Endo specialists are regular OB/GYNs who gave up doing the deliveries to
>try and help other women with endo, and some of them also have
>additional training in Reproductive Endocrinology (the infertility
>specialists).
>
>The techniques used by endo specialists whether they are regular OB/GYNs
>or those that are also infertility specialists are not that much
>different than what is used by a private doctor in the community other
>than the amount of experience with those techniques. Not the names of
>the techniques.
>
>LAPEX is just another way to say that endo is being removed thru
>excision done thru laparoscopic surgery.
>
>The laser is just an instrument used to remove the endo whether it's
>done thru excision or one of the other methods.
>
>For years it used to be primarily infertility specialists that mostly
>saw endo (read this in one of the books on endo) because of those women
>that were looking to try and get pregnant and couldn't do it on their
>own.
>
>At Wed, 24 Dec 2008, annie wrote:
>>
>>infertility specialists and endo specialists have different techniques,
>>or different names for their techniques
>>At Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Kristy wrote:
>>>
>>>The laser is just an instrument used to remove endo and in the hands of
>>>experienced doctors the laser can be used to excise endo.
>>>
>>>Also, the CEC uses the laser to do the excision of endo in their
>>>patients (read this on another endo list, the ERC one I think but I
>>>can't remember right now) instead of the monopolar scissors like Dr.
>>>Redwine uses.
>>>
>>>Some doctors including my own uses a harmonic scalpel. I first heard
>>>about harmonic scalpel from this list about 6 years ago.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 24 Dec 2008, annie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>i went back to the infertility doctor yesterday to let her know that i
>>>>am going to get LAPEX surgery from CEC in atlanta to get rid of my endo
>>>>and increase my chances of getting pregnant. the infertility obgyn had
>>>>no clue what LAPEX was. i found this to be a little disturbing becuase
>>>>the hospital i went to was a research hospital. i guess regular
>>>>infertility doctors are not trained on LAPEX they are trained on just
>>>>regular lasering endo. they just laser what they see .there main goal
>>>>is to get me pregnant not worrying about the long term effect of
>>>>hormones and inseminations. and if i chose to do insemination, the endo
>>>>would still be there and it would get worse and i would have to do
>>>>insemination again if i wanted more children. this is why a am putting
>>>>it into the hands of dr. sinervo who is an expert in getting rid of the
>>>>endo- this will be better for me in the long run and increase my
>>>>fertility
>>>
>>>--
>>>=====
>>>Kristy :)
>>>
>>>http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/Kristysstory.html
>>>
>--
>=====
>Kristy :)
>
>http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/Kristysstory.html
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