Re: Excision Specialist, covered by insurance.
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Jul 31 02:20:34 2008
I read the first line, and realized it was your typical rant.
I am forwarding the info so others can look into it for themselves. It's
too bad you can't be civil, no one can read your rants.
You're very weird and mocking. Who would want to help such a person?
I only read some posts to help other people. I am marking this so if I
know you are once again ranting and I won't waste my time. It's clear
you don't care about other women.
The hospital is wonderful, I can't imagine why someone who has no
experience with anything would be so obsessed.
At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>MMMMM.....guess you just *crumbled* under the pressure, huh? When the
>going gets tough, the tough...run & hide I guess!!
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>And yet, curious, all these pro CEC posts....so I guess you did read my
>post!
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>Go get a life, please!!
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>Before any of you go to the CEC, research the HOSPITAL you go to for
>aftercare!!!
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>Do your *own research* & don't let anyone make up your mind for you!
>It's *your* body, make sure *you* take care of it!
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>At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>Your posts are just ridiculous, and not worth reading. Every time
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>>someone has responded to you, you just go on a tear.
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>>At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>Fair is fair. If you are the one saying Nicole shouldn't be raving
>>>about the doctor because she hasn't had surgery with him, then why
>>>shouldn't you provide information about the CEC if you are raving about
>>>it?
>>>Also, did you ever talk to Dr. D. in person or on the phone and ask
>>>him any questions???!!!!! If you are soooo concerned about this post,
>>>why didn't you call him and confront him yourself????!!!!!!!
>>>Nicole did not get nasty, in fact, many other people did!! They called
>>>her a liar and other nasty names. She may have been misinformed or
>>>misheard something, but she did have good intentions. Maybe they were
>>>not factual, and you have *made your point* about that, and we can all
>>>read, so we understand that!! But she *did* have good intentions.
>>>Her behavior is not the problem here, it is the people who are screaming
>>>(senselessly) about the fact that she said dr. D was teaching Dr. R
>>>about DVR.
>>>Really, who gives a crap?
>>>You already provided Dr. R's phone #, so people can call him up and ask
>>>him about it!! They can also email him about it!
>>>Why the heck do you care so much, are you his lawyer or something???!!!
>>>Many comments have been defamatory against Dr. D. here too, dragging
>>>in his
>>>med. mal. WTF has that got to do with the robot teaching (or the
>>>connection to Dr. R)???!!! Nothing!!!
>>>You are just trying to pull every string you can to bash Dr. D, Nicole
>>>and her post, and elevate Dr. R!!!
>>>You are insulting people's intelligence!!!!!
>>>Let people decide for themselves who/what dr. they want! Stop being
>>>such a stupid bully!
>>>
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>>>>You have got to be kidding. The behavior here today by Nicole and any
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>>>>others would not encourage anyone to share important info with others. I
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>>>>used to think Nicole knew what she was talking about, but her
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>>>>overreaction today was shocking.
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>>>>If the CEC helped anyone, no one is forced to share that info with you
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>>>>or anyone else. All they sometimes can do is say, look into them. Find
>>>>out if they're the right center for that patient.
>>>>
>>>>Some people are helped by a doctor, someone else might not get the
>>>>results they expected. No one said, don't go to Dulemba. They just
>>>>said - and assured Nicole that she could call to check - that the doctor
>>>>is not teaching Dr Redwine what she claims Dr Dulemba said. She became
>>>>accusatory, nasty and all kinds of things. Apparently, if you don't
>>>>agree with certain people here, they attack you. It's amazing that
>>>>people do come here for help.
>>>>
>>>>It's completely paranoid to think that all the anons are the same, but I
>>>>sure as heck know why people choose that option.
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>>>Anonymous
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>>>>>Your saying Nicole should not have raved about this man because she
>>>>>hasnt had surgery etc with him yet. However you continously rave about
>>>>>the CEC and several have asked that you share your experience yet you
>>>>>have not done so. So please enlighten us. What stage endo did you have
>>>>>and how did the surgery with the CEC help
>>>>>you?????????????????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>>>>''I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>>>the Robot in his practice. ''
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The above is from Nicole's original post. I wasn't sure why the other
>>>>>>day you were raving about this doctor when all you had was one visit
>>>>>>with him. Why recommend him to others when you don't know him, or much
>>>>>>about him. Your very first post about going to see him was only a very
>>>>>>short time ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why bash other women here when they're bringing up the truth, and logic?
>>>>>>Why meet someone once and believe that everything they tell you is the
>>>>>>truth, right away? Even before your immature rants, you were not a
>>>>>>reliable source for women who might consider him for surgery. Then for
>>>>>>you to think one person could be all the ''anons'' is pure fantasy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you like him so much, why didn't you share more info about specifics?
>>>>>>Maybe he didn't offer them? Where does he think you have endo?
>>>>>>Locations? What's the expected recovery time? Why is the davinci robot
>>>>>>better than other types of surgery? Do you know the other types, and
>>>>>>their strenths? Why would he be ''training'' basically the ''Father of
>>>>>>excision surgery'' as I think of Dr Redwine? (and I do not know him at
>>>>>>all). I had never heard of Dr Dulemba before this board, but I
>>>>>>certainly had heard of Dr Redwine. In other words, to put it basically,
>>>>>>why would a world-wide known expert be ''trained'' by a lesser known
>>>>>>doctor? That doesn't mean Dr Dulemba is not a good doctor and doesn't
>>>>>>help people. But it's like saying Dr Dulemba and his methods are
>>>>>>superior to Dr Redwine. Your following posts also contained false info
>>>>>>as to his working with other doctors and their methods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe he didn't go into that with you. I'd be concerned in that case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You ask people to contact you with questions. Did you think that people
>>>>>>would only ask you ''postive'' questions? To prop you up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Everyone should cast a critical eye at the doctor / hospital that they
>>>>>>consider for surgery. The fact that you crumbled when that was
>>>>>>mentioned as something that should be done is very concerning. If
>>>>>>someone is ''all that'' then they should be able to withstand scrutiny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Several very good endo doctors take insurance. Taking insurance does
>>>>>>not mean one is less of a doctor than others who don't. What should
>>>>>>matter to a woman is, how will she feel after surgery? Is the doctor
>>>>>>aware of all types and forms of endo and able to provide her with
>>>>>>relief? How often does he do hysterectomies as a form of ''relief''?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>She should ask questions and more questions and still more questions. I
>>>>>>know of several people that if they had just asked more questions, would
>>>>>>have made different decisions for their treatment. Even when the best
>>>>>>questions ARE asked, she might make the wrong decision. But if a doctor
>>>>>>is telling her he is involved with another doctor and HE IS NOT, then
>>>>>>please don't keep insisting something is true. Saying it repeatedly
>>>>>>does not make it true. Other women should pay attention to what is
>>>>>>really happening. Having your friends come here and bash the women who
>>>>>>don't agree with you is also not right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is not so much for you, since you say you don't read here or post
>>>>>>here any longer. It's more for the women who will search and come up
>>>>>>with these posts as references.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A more accurate statement to have made would have been ''In my first
>>>>>>visit I was very impressed with him.''
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have gone through this before, and know of other women, upon meeting a
>>>>>>doctor once, then discovered their flaws later. Everyone has flaws, how
>>>>>>important it is to know a doctor's limits before you are the ''mistake''
>>>>>>that you didn't think would happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lawsuits can be dismissed on technicalities, that when amended, or
>>>>>>appealed, can continue on. The lawsuit was not without merit, and when
>>>>>>you read the facts you can realize that no one would have wanted to be
>>>>>>in the position that the woman was, after surgery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Endo is tricky, and many things can happen. If you don't want to listen
>>>>>>to someone, that's fine. You can do whatever you want in choosing a
>>>>>>surgeon. But don't attack others when neither you nor Dr D was
>>>>>>attacked. That doesn't do much for his image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Nicole wrote:
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>>>>>>>I thought I would post this for all those people out there that think
>>>>>>>Excision Surgery is out of question because of out-of-network doctors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>>>>the Robot in his practice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This man has a wonderful bedside manner and an extensive knowledge of
>>>>>>>endo. I am scheduled to have surgery in December to remove my endo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I encourage others out there to check with your insurance carrier to see
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>Dr. Dulemba is covered in your network. I have United Healthcare and
>>>>>>>they also take Blue Cross and Blue Shield. I am not sure what others,
>>>>>>>but he does surgery at North Texas University Hospital. All of which is
>>>>>>>covered on my insurance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know each insurance company is different, but I thought I would post
>>>>>>>on here to let people know there are some other options. I was not
>>>>>>>going to be able to go to the CEC or a place out of network due to cost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hope this helps and feel free to email me with any questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Nicole
>>>>>>>nriggs@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
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