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Re: Excision Specialist who is covered by insurance.
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Jul 31 01:25:30 2008
MMMMM.....guess you just *crumbled* under the pressure, huh? When the
going gets tough, the tough...run & hide I guess!!
And yet, curious, all these pro CEC posts....so I guess you did read my
post!
Go get a life, please!!
Before any of you go to the CEC, research the HOSPITAL you go to for
aftercare!!!
Do your *own research* & don't let anyone make up your mind for you!
It's *your* body, make sure *you* take care of it!
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At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>Your posts are just ridiculous, and not worth reading. Every time
>someone has responded to you, you just go on a tear.
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>At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>Fair is fair. If you are the one saying Nicole shouldn't be raving
>>about the doctor because she hasn't had surgery with him, then why
>>shouldn't you provide information about the CEC if you are raving about
>>it?
>>Also, did you ever talk to Dr. D. in person or on the phone and ask
>>him any questions???!!!!! If you are soooo concerned about this post,
>>why didn't you call him and confront him yourself????!!!!!!!
>>Nicole did not get nasty, in fact, many other people did!! They called
>>her a liar and other nasty names. She may have been misinformed or
>>misheard something, but she did have good intentions. Maybe they were
>>not factual, and you have *made your point* about that, and we can all
>>read, so we understand that!! But she *did* have good intentions.
>>Her behavior is not the problem here, it is the people who are screaming
>>(senselessly) about the fact that she said dr. D was teaching Dr. R
>>about DVR.
>>Really, who gives a crap?
>>You already provided Dr. R's phone #, so people can call him up and ask
>>him about it!! They can also email him about it!
>>Why the heck do you care so much, are you his lawyer or something???!!!
>>Many comments have been defamatory against Dr. D. here too, dragging
>>in his
>>med. mal. WTF has that got to do with the robot teaching (or the
>>connection to Dr. R)???!!! Nothing!!!
>>You are just trying to pull every string you can to bash Dr. D, Nicole
>>and her post, and elevate Dr. R!!!
>>You are insulting people's intelligence!!!!!
>>Let people decide for themselves who/what dr. they want! Stop being
>>such a stupid bully!
>>
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>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>You have got to be kidding. The behavior here today by Nicole and any
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>>>others would not encourage anyone to share important info with others. I
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>>>used to think Nicole knew what she was talking about, but her
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>>>overreaction today was shocking.
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>>>If the CEC helped anyone, no one is forced to share that info with you
>>>or anyone else. All they sometimes can do is say, look into them. Find
>>>out if they're the right center for that patient.
>>>
>>>Some people are helped by a doctor, someone else might not get the
>>>results they expected. No one said, don't go to Dulemba. They just
>>>said - and assured Nicole that she could call to check - that the doctor
>>>is not teaching Dr Redwine what she claims Dr Dulemba said. She became
>>>accusatory, nasty and all kinds of things. Apparently, if you don't
>>>agree with certain people here, they attack you. It's amazing that
>>>people do come here for help.
>>>
>>>It's completely paranoid to think that all the anons are the same, but I
>>>sure as heck know why people choose that option.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>>Anonymous
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>>>>Your saying Nicole should not have raved about this man because she
>>>>hasnt had surgery etc with him yet. However you continously rave about
>>>>the CEC and several have asked that you share your experience yet you
>>>>have not done so. So please enlighten us. What stage endo did you have
>>>>and how did the surgery with the CEC help
>>>>you?????????????????????????????????
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>''I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>>the Robot in his practice. ''
>>>>>
>>>>>The above is from Nicole's original post. I wasn't sure why the other
>>>>>day you were raving about this doctor when all you had was one visit
>>>>>with him. Why recommend him to others when you don't know him, or much
>>>>>about him. Your very first post about going to see him was only a very
>>>>>short time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bash other women here when they're bringing up the truth, and logic?
>>>>>Why meet someone once and believe that everything they tell you is the
>>>>>truth, right away? Even before your immature rants, you were not a
>>>>>reliable source for women who might consider him for surgery. Then for
>>>>>you to think one person could be all the ''anons'' is pure fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you like him so much, why didn't you share more info about specifics?
>>>>>Maybe he didn't offer them? Where does he think you have endo?
>>>>>Locations? What's the expected recovery time? Why is the davinci robot
>>>>>better than other types of surgery? Do you know the other types, and
>>>>>their strenths? Why would he be ''training'' basically the ''Father of
>>>>>excision surgery'' as I think of Dr Redwine? (and I do not know him at
>>>>>all). I had never heard of Dr Dulemba before this board, but I
>>>>>certainly had heard of Dr Redwine. In other words, to put it basically,
>>>>>why would a world-wide known expert be ''trained'' by a lesser known
>>>>>doctor? That doesn't mean Dr Dulemba is not a good doctor and doesn't
>>>>>help people. But it's like saying Dr Dulemba and his methods are
>>>>>superior to Dr Redwine. Your following posts also contained false info
>>>>>as to his working with other doctors and their methods.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe he didn't go into that with you. I'd be concerned in that case.
>>>>>
>>>>>You ask people to contact you with questions. Did you think that people
>>>>>would only ask you ''postive'' questions? To prop you up?
>>>>>
>>>>>Everyone should cast a critical eye at the doctor / hospital that they
>>>>>consider for surgery. The fact that you crumbled when that was
>>>>>mentioned as something that should be done is very concerning. If
>>>>>someone is ''all that'' then they should be able to withstand scrutiny.
>>>>>
>>>>>Several very good endo doctors take insurance. Taking insurance does
>>>>>not mean one is less of a doctor than others who don't. What should
>>>>>matter to a woman is, how will she feel after surgery? Is the doctor
>>>>>aware of all types and forms of endo and able to provide her with
>>>>>relief? How often does he do hysterectomies as a form of ''relief''?
>>>>>
>>>>>She should ask questions and more questions and still more questions. I
>>>>>know of several people that if they had just asked more questions, would
>>>>>have made different decisions for their treatment. Even when the best
>>>>>questions ARE asked, she might make the wrong decision. But if a doctor
>>>>>is telling her he is involved with another doctor and HE IS NOT, then
>>>>>please don't keep insisting something is true. Saying it repeatedly
>>>>>does not make it true. Other women should pay attention to what is
>>>>>really happening. Having your friends come here and bash the women who
>>>>>don't agree with you is also not right.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is not so much for you, since you say you don't read here or post
>>>>>here any longer. It's more for the women who will search and come up
>>>>>with these posts as references.
>>>>>
>>>>>A more accurate statement to have made would have been ''In my first
>>>>>visit I was very impressed with him.''
>>>>>
>>>>>I have gone through this before, and know of other women, upon meeting a
>>>>>doctor once, then discovered their flaws later. Everyone has flaws, how
>>>>>important it is to know a doctor's limits before you are the ''mistake''
>>>>>that you didn't think would happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lawsuits can be dismissed on technicalities, that when amended, or
>>>>>appealed, can continue on. The lawsuit was not without merit, and when
>>>>>you read the facts you can realize that no one would have wanted to be
>>>>>in the position that the woman was, after surgery.
>>>>>
>>>>>Endo is tricky, and many things can happen. If you don't want to listen
>>>>>to someone, that's fine. You can do whatever you want in choosing a
>>>>>surgeon. But don't attack others when neither you nor Dr D was
>>>>>attacked. That doesn't do much for his image.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Nicole wrote:
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>>>>>>I thought I would post this for all those people out there that think
>>>>>>Excision Surgery is out of question because of out-of-network doctors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>>>the Robot in his practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This man has a wonderful bedside manner and an extensive knowledge of
>>>>>>endo. I am scheduled to have surgery in December to remove my endo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I encourage others out there to check with your insurance carrier to see
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>Dr. Dulemba is covered in your network. I have United Healthcare and
>>>>>>they also take Blue Cross and Blue Shield. I am not sure what others,
>>>>>>but he does surgery at North Texas University Hospital. All of which is
>>>>>>covered on my insurance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know each insurance company is different, but I thought I would post
>>>>>>on here to let people know there are some other options. I was not
>>>>>>going to be able to go to the CEC or a place out of network due to cost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope this helps and feel free to email me with any questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Nicole
>>>>>>nriggs@hotmail.com
>>>>>>
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