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Re: Excision Specialist who is covered by insurance.
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu Jul 31 00:55:40 2008
Your posts are just ridiculous, and not worth reading. Every time
someone has responded to you, you just go on a tear.
At Thu, 31 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>Fair is fair. If you are the one saying Nicole shouldn't be raving
>about the doctor because she hasn't had surgery with him, then why
>shouldn't you provide information about the CEC if you are raving about
>it?
>Also, did you ever talk to Dr. D. in person or on the phone and ask
>him any questions???!!!!! If you are soooo concerned about this post,
>why didn't you call him and confront him yourself????!!!!!!!
>Nicole did not get nasty, in fact, many other people did!! They called
>her a liar and other nasty names. She may have been misinformed or
>misheard something, but she did have good intentions. Maybe they were
>not factual, and you have *made your point* about that, and we can all
>read, so we understand that!! But she *did* have good intentions.
>Her behavior is not the problem here, it is the people who are screaming
>(senselessly) about the fact that she said dr. D was teaching Dr. R
>about DVR.
>Really, who gives a crap?
>You already provided Dr. R's phone #, so people can call him up and ask
>him about it!! They can also email him about it!
>Why the heck do you care so much, are you his lawyer or something???!!!
>Many comments have been defamatory against Dr. D. here too, dragging
>in his
>med. mal. WTF has that got to do with the robot teaching (or the
>connection to Dr. R)???!!! Nothing!!!
>You are just trying to pull every string you can to bash Dr. D, Nicole
>and her post, and elevate Dr. R!!!
>You are insulting people's intelligence!!!!!
>Let people decide for themselves who/what dr. they want! Stop being
>such a stupid bully!
>
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>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>You have got to be kidding. The behavior here today by Nicole and any
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>>others would not encourage anyone to share important info with others. I
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>>used to think Nicole knew what she was talking about, but her
>>overreaction today was shocking.
>>
>>If the CEC helped anyone, no one is forced to share that info with you
>>or anyone else. All they sometimes can do is say, look into them. Find
>>out if they're the right center for that patient.
>>
>>Some people are helped by a doctor, someone else might not get the
>>results they expected. No one said, don't go to Dulemba. They just
>>said - and assured Nicole that she could call to check - that the doctor
>>is not teaching Dr Redwine what she claims Dr Dulemba said. She became
>>accusatory, nasty and all kinds of things. Apparently, if you don't
>>agree with certain people here, they attack you. It's amazing that
>>people do come here for help.
>>
>>It's completely paranoid to think that all the anons are the same, but I
>>sure as heck know why people choose that option.
>>
>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>Anonymous
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>>>Your saying Nicole should not have raved about this man because she
>>>hasnt had surgery etc with him yet. However you continously rave about
>>>the CEC and several have asked that you share your experience yet you
>>>have not done so. So please enlighten us. What stage endo did you have
>>>and how did the surgery with the CEC help
>>>you?????????????????????????????????
>>>
>>>At Wed, 30 Jul 2008, anonymous wrote:
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>>>>''I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>the Robot in his practice. ''
>>>>
>>>>The above is from Nicole's original post. I wasn't sure why the other
>>>>day you were raving about this doctor when all you had was one visit
>>>>with him. Why recommend him to others when you don't know him, or much
>>>>about him. Your very first post about going to see him was only a very
>>>>short time ago.
>>>>
>>>>Why bash other women here when they're bringing up the truth, and logic?
>>>>Why meet someone once and believe that everything they tell you is the
>>>>truth, right away? Even before your immature rants, you were not a
>>>>reliable source for women who might consider him for surgery. Then for
>>>>you to think one person could be all the ''anons'' is pure fantasy.
>>>>
>>>>If you like him so much, why didn't you share more info about specifics?
>>>>Maybe he didn't offer them? Where does he think you have endo?
>>>>Locations? What's the expected recovery time? Why is the davinci robot
>>>>better than other types of surgery? Do you know the other types, and
>>>>their strenths? Why would he be ''training'' basically the ''Father of
>>>>excision surgery'' as I think of Dr Redwine? (and I do not know him at
>>>>all). I had never heard of Dr Dulemba before this board, but I
>>>>certainly had heard of Dr Redwine. In other words, to put it basically,
>>>>why would a world-wide known expert be ''trained'' by a lesser known
>>>>doctor? That doesn't mean Dr Dulemba is not a good doctor and doesn't
>>>>help people. But it's like saying Dr Dulemba and his methods are
>>>>superior to Dr Redwine. Your following posts also contained false info
>>>>as to his working with other doctors and their methods.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe he didn't go into that with you. I'd be concerned in that case.
>>>>
>>>>You ask people to contact you with questions. Did you think that people
>>>>would only ask you ''postive'' questions? To prop you up?
>>>>
>>>>Everyone should cast a critical eye at the doctor / hospital that they
>>>>consider for surgery. The fact that you crumbled when that was
>>>>mentioned as something that should be done is very concerning. If
>>>>someone is ''all that'' then they should be able to withstand scrutiny.
>>>>
>>>>Several very good endo doctors take insurance. Taking insurance does
>>>>not mean one is less of a doctor than others who don't. What should
>>>>matter to a woman is, how will she feel after surgery? Is the doctor
>>>>aware of all types and forms of endo and able to provide her with
>>>>relief? How often does he do hysterectomies as a form of ''relief''?
>>>>
>>>>She should ask questions and more questions and still more questions. I
>>>>know of several people that if they had just asked more questions, would
>>>>have made different decisions for their treatment. Even when the best
>>>>questions ARE asked, she might make the wrong decision. But if a doctor
>>>>is telling her he is involved with another doctor and HE IS NOT, then
>>>>please don't keep insisting something is true. Saying it repeatedly
>>>>does not make it true. Other women should pay attention to what is
>>>>really happening. Having your friends come here and bash the women who
>>>>don't agree with you is also not right.
>>>>
>>>>This is not so much for you, since you say you don't read here or post
>>>>here any longer. It's more for the women who will search and come up
>>>>with these posts as references.
>>>>
>>>>A more accurate statement to have made would have been ''In my first
>>>>visit I was very impressed with him.''
>>>>
>>>>I have gone through this before, and know of other women, upon meeting a
>>>>doctor once, then discovered their flaws later. Everyone has flaws, how
>>>>important it is to know a doctor's limits before you are the ''mistake''
>>>>that you didn't think would happen.
>>>>
>>>>Lawsuits can be dismissed on technicalities, that when amended, or
>>>>appealed, can continue on. The lawsuit was not without merit, and when
>>>>you read the facts you can realize that no one would have wanted to be
>>>>in the position that the woman was, after surgery.
>>>>
>>>>Endo is tricky, and many things can happen. If you don't want to listen
>>>>to someone, that's fine. You can do whatever you want in choosing a
>>>>surgeon. But don't attack others when neither you nor Dr D was
>>>>attacked. That doesn't do much for his image.
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Nicole wrote:
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>>>>>I thought I would post this for all those people out there that think
>>>>>Excision Surgery is out of question because of out-of-network doctors.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am seeing Dr. John F. Dulemba out of Denton TX (Dallas Area.) This
>>>>>doctor is amazing. He does excision surgery with the DaVinci Robot. He
>>>>>is currently the training doctor for Dr. Redwine who is learning to use
>>>>>the Robot in his practice.
>>>>>
>>>>>This man has a wonderful bedside manner and an extensive knowledge of
>>>>>endo. I am scheduled to have surgery in December to remove my endo.
>>>>>
>>>>>I encourage others out there to check with your insurance carrier to see
>>>>>if
>>>>>Dr. Dulemba is covered in your network. I have United Healthcare and
>>>>>they also take Blue Cross and Blue Shield. I am not sure what others,
>>>>>but he does surgery at North Texas University Hospital. All of which is
>>>>>covered on my insurance.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know each insurance company is different, but I thought I would post
>>>>>on here to let people know there are some other options. I was not
>>>>>going to be able to go to the CEC or a place out of network due to cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope this helps and feel free to email me with any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Nicole
>>>>>nriggs@hotmail.com
>>>>>
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