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Re: cpies for Endo
From: summer (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun Jun 29 18:04:43 2008
Wanted to pass this on...some women get a little extra help from this
supplement, estrosense
available at estrosense.com
At Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Cindy wrote:
>
>Hi Maggie-
>
>I am also going through the process of trying to change my diet and
>experiencing similar frustrations. It seems everything is bad on some
>level. There are two books I that I think might help you. The first
>one is "Endometriosis A Key key to healing through nutrition" by Mills
>and Vernon. The book is well writing and very hopeful, however, it is
>also quite complex. The second is "the smart baking cookbook" by Jane
>Kinderlehrer. She does use allot of wheat flour but, you can substitute
>buckwheat flour. Not all of the recipes will work for you but, it will
>give you some good ideas.
>
>Also I think I am going to try and find a good dietitian to help me
>figure all this out.
>
>Good luck!
>
>--
>Cindy
>
>At Thu, 26 Jun 2008, summer wrote:
>>
>>Beware of peanut butter, it can contribute to pelvic pain.
>>
>>At Thu, 26 Jun 2008, heavenlygarcia wrote:
>>>
>>>I can understand that it's gotta be really hard for you to completly
>>>change the way you have eaten your whole life? I have been luck since I
>>>have been vegitarian for 7yrs then vegan 2yrs. I got half it down
>>>already. Maybe getting the book vegan or vegitarian for dummies may
>>>help as well. Maybe you still eat meat but it still gives good insite
>>>to things you think youll miss but the subsitutions aren't bad and soon
>>>kale sounds good. Vegweb.com may be helpful for some recipes, just
>>>replace any pasta dish with rice or rice noodles. I make alot of asian
>>>recipes I use Braggs Amino Acids for a soy sauce sub. It tastes just
>>>like it, you can get it at health food stores. The only concern I am
>>>having is with all the lack of carbs (since cutting out wheat is like
>>>going on a low carb diet.) I am losing more wieght. I started out at
>>>95lbs. now i'm 89lbs!!! I cant lose anymore or ill be under wieght, I
>>>am hanging on by .03% enough of BMI. I eat alot of peanut butter but i
>>>think i just burn it off somehow. Well, I hope you have good luck on
>>>your journey, if you have any questions about diet and food you can
>>>email me. heavenlygarcia@peacemail.com. I know a good amount about
>>>healthy eating, subititutions, and all that good stuff, since I had to
>>>learn about it to be able to eat healthy and be vegan. It can be
>>>expensive but, you can find recipes that are basic ingredients and spice
>>>it up using herbs and different methods of cooking, it's all
>>>experimenting and finding what you like.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Girls
>>>>
>>>>Thanks so much for your help, ive just spent the last hour reading
>>>>through some of the bread etc. recipes from the book i got and im very
>>>>confused as some of them have yeast as an ingredient, are we not
>>>>supossed to avoid yeast!? This gets more confusing by the day to be
>>>>honest. What in the name of God are we definitely supposed to avoid,
>>>>most of the books say not to go near yeast, dairy, wheat & sugar, ok i
>>>>know we have a substitute for sugar and dairy but why put recipes in a
>>>>book for endo patients with yeast in them when we are told to avoid it
>>>>altogether??? God my head is minced!
>>>>
>>>>heavenlygarcia - I'll try those websites you gave me thanks a mill, they
>>>>may throw some light on it all.
>>>>
>>>>Summer - thanks to you too i'll will get some of those supplements.
>>>>
>>>>The hardest part is during the day in work, the smell of someone cooking
>>>>toast is killing. Im sick of sitting there with my kiwi or bowl of
>>>>strawberries, nice as they are they just dont cut it! It would be great
>>>>to have some substitute without feeling like you are making things worse
>>>>for yourself. I just cannot understand where one book or website would
>>>>condone one thing and the other be completely against it, is it not hard
>>>>enough dealing with endo alone, im just a bit sick, sore and tired of
>>>>trying to firgure this bloody diet out! Sorry im just venting, im sure
>>>>you all feel the same!
>>>>
>>>>I'll try one of the recpies anyway and get back to yous, my baking
>>>>skills aint great so dont hold your breath! Worth a shot though!
>>>>
>>>>Also (seeing that im venting already!) there seems to be conflicting
>>>>things about citris fruits, some say to avoid them and others seem to
>>>>think they are perfectly fine?? Then there is the soy/soya issue which
>>>>im still not sure about! I know too much has a certain type of acid that
>>>>can mymic estrogen and then there is the issue of mass production that
>>>>can kill all the good qualities of the soya bean but nobody has told us
>>>>for definite. Ive been eating soya, in small doses, for the last while
>>>>as a substitute for milk, ive now changed to rice or goats milk just to
>>>>be on the safe side, im just getting fed up throwing things out, its an
>>>>expensive diet so it would be great if it was more clear from the start,
>>>>i cant affort half of these changes to be honest, its financily,
>>>>mentally and emotionally draining! Do any of you feel the same or am i
>>>>taking it too much to heart?
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Maggie
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, summer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I have found that supplements like GlutenEase, digestive enzymes and
>>>>>pro-biotics help so much.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, heavenlygarcia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/wheatfree/#crackers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.fatfreevegan.com/gluten-free/index.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have not eaten bread in literally 3 months. I am intimidated by the
>>>>>>new flour mixtures and am not willing to pay the $6 for a loaf. I had
>>>>>>to go wheat free due to bloating. These are two websites I have found a
>>>>>>while ago that look pretty promising. I would love to try to bake a
>>>>>>bread recipe but again I'm really nervous about messing up the flour
>>>>>>mixtures. There is also a gluten free cook book I found at my library.
>>>>>>I'm sure yours would have one too. I hope this helps and I'm sorry I
>>>>>>can't tell you I have tried any of these but I think they will work fine
>>>>>>if you tried one. I will have to make myself bake one soon, rice
>>>>>>crackers are just not doing it for me anymore, but i have stopped
>>>>>>craving bread like a junkie, now I just want it really bad, whick is an
>>>>>>improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Squea wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Basically you're doing a gluten-free, caseine-free diet, which some of
>>>>>>>my students are on (I teach students with Austism). I know one of my
>>>>>>>parents buys her son's bread at Whole Foods. I know there are two
>>>>>>>options that are not frozen there (one was really dry, one is much
>>>>>>>better). There is also a frozen bread that fits those specifications
>>>>>>>(but is more expensive).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know she also buys a gf/cf pancake mix. She mixes the pancakes up on
>>>>>>>the weekend and freezes them for the week. My student can then put the
>>>>>>>pancakes (she makes minis) in the microwave for like 30 seconds and he
>>>>>>>has breakfast during the week :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, there are some great baking recipes out there. We made chocolate
>>>>>>>chip cookies last year at school that were gf/cf. The mom sent in all
>>>>>>>the ingredients b/c she was so excited about us doing it. The recipe I
>>>>>>>had used 3 different kinds of flour, along with dairy free shortening,
>>>>>>>and dairy free chocolate chips. Surprisingly, the cookies were REALLY
>>>>>>>good (some of the best I'd had!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, depending on where you live, some bakeries make gf/cf food. For
>>>>>>>special occasions/school parties, the mom will send in cookies and
>>>>>>>frosting from a local bakery that her son can have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On a different note, my cousin is allergic to gluten, so she's found a
>>>>>>>lot of ways to eat without it. But she can still have dairy and yeast,
>>>>>>>so her options aren't quite as limited. But, again, she has had the
>>>>>>>most success with natural food stores in finding foods she can have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At Tue, 24 Jun 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Ladies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've started to change my diet completely and ive managed ok-ish so far,
>>>>>>>>the only problem area i have is bread. If we are supposed to avoid
>>>>>>>>dairy, yeast, wheat and sugar there is not many options left, ive
>>>>>>>>searched in every supermarket and all the breads seem to have at least
>>>>>>>>one of those ingredients and any recepies ive looked up on on the
>>>>>>>>internet are the same. I'm living on ryvita instead of bread at the
>>>>>>>>moment which are so dry (not to mention boring) no matter what i put on
>>>>>>>>them! Have any of you got any bread recpies that you could give me
>>>>>>>>please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kind Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maggie
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