Re: cpies for Endo
From: Cindy (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun Jun 29 15:16:57 2008
Hi Maggie-
I am also going through the process of trying to change my diet and
experiencing similar frustrations. It seems everything is bad on some
level. There are two books I that I think might help you. The first
one is "Endometriosis A Key key to healing through nutrition" by Mills
and Vernon. The book is well writing and very hopeful, however, it is
also quite complex. The second is "the smart baking cookbook" by Jane
Kinderlehrer. She does use allot of wheat flour but, you can substitute
buckwheat flour. Not all of the recipes will work for you but, it will
give you some good ideas.
Also I think I am going to try and find a good dietitian to help me
figure all this out.
Good luck!
--
Cindy
At Thu, 26 Jun 2008, summer wrote:
>
>Beware of peanut butter, it can contribute to pelvic pain.
>
>At Thu, 26 Jun 2008, heavenlygarcia wrote:
>>
>>I can understand that it's gotta be really hard for you to completly
>>change the way you have eaten your whole life? I have been luck since I
>>have been vegitarian for 7yrs then vegan 2yrs. I got half it down
>>already. Maybe getting the book vegan or vegitarian for dummies may
>>help as well. Maybe you still eat meat but it still gives good insite
>>to things you think youll miss but the subsitutions aren't bad and soon
>>kale sounds good. Vegweb.com may be helpful for some recipes, just
>>replace any pasta dish with rice or rice noodles. I make alot of asian
>>recipes I use Braggs Amino Acids for a soy sauce sub. It tastes just
>>like it, you can get it at health food stores. The only concern I am
>>having is with all the lack of carbs (since cutting out wheat is like
>>going on a low carb diet.) I am losing more wieght. I started out at
>>95lbs. now i'm 89lbs!!! I cant lose anymore or ill be under wieght, I
>>am hanging on by .03% enough of BMI. I eat alot of peanut butter but i
>>think i just burn it off somehow. Well, I hope you have good luck on
>>your journey, if you have any questions about diet and food you can
>>email me. heavenlygarcia@peacemail.com. I know a good amount about
>>healthy eating, subititutions, and all that good stuff, since I had to
>>learn about it to be able to eat healthy and be vegan. It can be
>>expensive but, you can find recipes that are basic ingredients and spice
>>it up using herbs and different methods of cooking, it's all
>>experimenting and finding what you like.
>>
>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Girls
>>>
>>>Thanks so much for your help, ive just spent the last hour reading
>>>through some of the bread etc. recipes from the book i got and im very
>>>confused as some of them have yeast as an ingredient, are we not
>>>supossed to avoid yeast!? This gets more confusing by the day to be
>>>honest. What in the name of God are we definitely supposed to avoid,
>>>most of the books say not to go near yeast, dairy, wheat & sugar, ok i
>>>know we have a substitute for sugar and dairy but why put recipes in a
>>>book for endo patients with yeast in them when we are told to avoid it
>>>altogether??? God my head is minced!
>>>
>>>heavenlygarcia - I'll try those websites you gave me thanks a mill, they
>>>may throw some light on it all.
>>>
>>>Summer - thanks to you too i'll will get some of those supplements.
>>>
>>>The hardest part is during the day in work, the smell of someone cooking
>>>toast is killing. Im sick of sitting there with my kiwi or bowl of
>>>strawberries, nice as they are they just dont cut it! It would be great
>>>to have some substitute without feeling like you are making things worse
>>>for yourself. I just cannot understand where one book or website would
>>>condone one thing and the other be completely against it, is it not hard
>>>enough dealing with endo alone, im just a bit sick, sore and tired of
>>>trying to firgure this bloody diet out! Sorry im just venting, im sure
>>>you all feel the same!
>>>
>>>I'll try one of the recpies anyway and get back to yous, my baking
>>>skills aint great so dont hold your breath! Worth a shot though!
>>>
>>>Also (seeing that im venting already!) there seems to be conflicting
>>>things about citris fruits, some say to avoid them and others seem to
>>>think they are perfectly fine?? Then there is the soy/soya issue which
>>>im still not sure about! I know too much has a certain type of acid that
>>>can mymic estrogen and then there is the issue of mass production that
>>>can kill all the good qualities of the soya bean but nobody has told us
>>>for definite. Ive been eating soya, in small doses, for the last while
>>>as a substitute for milk, ive now changed to rice or goats milk just to
>>>be on the safe side, im just getting fed up throwing things out, its an
>>>expensive diet so it would be great if it was more clear from the start,
>>>i cant affort half of these changes to be honest, its financily,
>>>mentally and emotionally draining! Do any of you feel the same or am i
>>>taking it too much to heart?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Maggie
>>>
>>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, summer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I have found that supplements like GlutenEase, digestive enzymes and
>>>>pro-biotics help so much.
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 25 Jun 2008, heavenlygarcia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/wheatfree/#crackers
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.fatfreevegan.com/gluten-free/index.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>>I have not eaten bread in literally 3 months. I am intimidated by the
>>>>>new flour mixtures and am not willing to pay the $6 for a loaf. I had
>>>>>to go wheat free due to bloating. These are two websites I have found a
>>>>>while ago that look pretty promising. I would love to try to bake a
>>>>>bread recipe but again I'm really nervous about messing up the flour
>>>>>mixtures. There is also a gluten free cook book I found at my library.
>>>>>I'm sure yours would have one too. I hope this helps and I'm sorry I
>>>>>can't tell you I have tried any of these but I think they will work fine
>>>>>if you tried one. I will have to make myself bake one soon, rice
>>>>>crackers are just not doing it for me anymore, but i have stopped
>>>>>craving bread like a junkie, now I just want it really bad, whick is an
>>>>>improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Squea wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Basically you're doing a gluten-free, caseine-free diet, which some of
>>>>>>my students are on (I teach students with Austism). I know one of my
>>>>>>parents buys her son's bread at Whole Foods. I know there are two
>>>>>>options that are not frozen there (one was really dry, one is much
>>>>>>better). There is also a frozen bread that fits those specifications
>>>>>>(but is more expensive).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know she also buys a gf/cf pancake mix. She mixes the pancakes up on
>>>>>>the weekend and freezes them for the week. My student can then put the
>>>>>>pancakes (she makes minis) in the microwave for like 30 seconds and he
>>>>>>has breakfast during the week :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, there are some great baking recipes out there. We made chocolate
>>>>>>chip cookies last year at school that were gf/cf. The mom sent in all
>>>>>>the ingredients b/c she was so excited about us doing it. The recipe I
>>>>>>had used 3 different kinds of flour, along with dairy free shortening,
>>>>>>and dairy free chocolate chips. Surprisingly, the cookies were REALLY
>>>>>>good (some of the best I'd had!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, depending on where you live, some bakeries make gf/cf food. For
>>>>>>special occasions/school parties, the mom will send in cookies and
>>>>>>frosting from a local bakery that her son can have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On a different note, my cousin is allergic to gluten, so she's found a
>>>>>>lot of ways to eat without it. But she can still have dairy and yeast,
>>>>>>so her options aren't quite as limited. But, again, she has had the
>>>>>>most success with natural food stores in finding foods she can have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At Tue, 24 Jun 2008, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Ladies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've started to change my diet completely and ive managed ok-ish so far,
>>>>>>>the only problem area i have is bread. If we are supposed to avoid
>>>>>>>dairy, yeast, wheat and sugar there is not many options left, ive
>>>>>>>searched in every supermarket and all the breads seem to have at least
>>>>>>>one of those ingredients and any recepies ive looked up on on the
>>>>>>>internet are the same. I'm living on ryvita instead of bread at the
>>>>>>>moment which are so dry (not to mention boring) no matter what i put on
>>>>>>>them! Have any of you got any bread recpies that you could give me
>>>>>>>please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kind Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maggie
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