Re: Mary, Read this, it explains some things...
From: Mary (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Dec 26 23:41:31 2007
Thanks Andrea. I am going to see a specialist on 1/3 - I will let you
know what he says. I have only a little hope left at this point. Been
through soo much with this disease. I hope you find more info about the
laser. I do appreciate the help. It is most valued.
--
Mary
At Thu, 27 Dec 2007, andrea wrote:
>
>Here is Dr. Cook's site that tells of all the
>procedures...electrocautery (fulguration) is not recommended by him.
>This is what is says:
>
>Coagulation is in essence an electrical burn that destroys the
>appearance of the tissue. As a result, it is impossible to tell what is
>normal and what is abnormal. Since the surgeon can't tell if all of the
>endometriosis has been destroyed, deep endometriosis can be left behind.
>In the worst case, normal peritoneum heals over this area with
>endometriosis deep underneath.
>
>HERE IS HIS SITE:
>http://urlwww--pelvicpain--com.reachlocal.net/surgical_techniques.html
>
>I still can't find any other specialists who use the type of laser my
>doc is using! But, I guess excision with a combo of vaporization is
>supposed to be best. Was your doc a specialist? I'm sorry you are
>hurting. The only way to beat this is one or two excision surgeries
>with a good specialist.
>
>At Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Mary wrote:
>>
>>Andrea,
>>My surgeon used laser vaporization/fulugration - I would NOT recommend
>>this in any way shape or form. I feel soooo much worse since my surgery
>>in June. I hope your surgery goes much better and that you find some
>>relief. You are wise to research this in depth BEFORE the surgery. I
>>really thought I was getting the proper care when I had my surgery. I
>>guess I can do better.
>>
>>At Wed, 26 Dec 2007, andrea wrote:
>>>
>>>I know there are different laser techniques. There is laser
>>>vaporization that is not supposed to be as successful and laser
>>>excision, which is more thorough. I made sure today that my doctor does
>>>excision and not vaporization. Kristy told me today that the doctors in
>>>Atlanta at the CEC use laser excision. Is this true? The few women I
>>>know on here who've been to the CEC have had successful surgeries, so
>>>that would be good news.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Mary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I had laser surgery, and would NOT recommend it at all!! I feel 1000x
>>>>worse since the surgery. I was told that the laser can sometimes "stir
>>>>things up" - and it doesn't get rid of the endo. I would STRONGLY
>>>>recommend you research this more. I am going for excision surgery - but
>>>>ONLY the kind where they actually remove it surgically - NOT LASER. This
>>>>is just my experience. Also, keep in mind that Dr. Redwine gets some
>>>>of the most difficult cases, so the return rates can't always be
>>>>compared to that of other surgeons.
>>>>
>>>>good luck.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Mary
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 26 Dec 2007, andrea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am having laser excision on January 23rd with Dr. John Dulemba, in
>>>>>Denton, TX. I was wondering if anyone has had laser excision and what
>>>>>thier success was? I know Dr. Redwine uses rotating scissor excision.
>>>>>
>>>>>He says scissors are more precise and unlike the laser, they are not
>>>>>restricted to where they can cut. Laser cannot reach the cul-de-sac
>>>>>area of the abdomen. Redwine's success rate is 57%, as told to me by my
>>>>>doctor (they are close associates) and my doctor's success rate is 53%.
>>>>>Even on Dr. Redwine's site, it says that success rates of excision with
>>>>>a specialist are between 40-50% with one surgery, then goes up to over
>>>>>70% with two surgeries.
>>>>>
>>>>>I just wanted to hear some different stories of scissor vs. laser
>>>>>surgeries. I am worried that if I do have endo in my cul-de-sac (behind
>>>>>my uterues) the laser surgery will not be able to remove it all.
>>>>>
>>>>>My doctor says with the laser, there is less bleeding and that's why he
>>>>>chooses that technique. I am hoping I have at least a few years to be
>>>>>pain-free! I guess if the MRI shows endo in the cul-de-sac, I may have
>>>>>to go to another doctor who uses scissors, because I want a very
>>>>>thorough surgery! What do you think? I am scared to death and can't wait
>>>>>to get this over with! Also, my surgery is $25,000! Is that the normal
>>>>>cost of excision with a specialist? What were the total costs of some of
>>>>>your surgeries? I have to pay a $3500 deductible of that.
>>>>
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