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Andrea

From: Michelle (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Oct 17 15:32:37 2007


At Wed, 17 Oct 2007, andrea wrote: >
>I would like to see all the research studies too, but I think the real
>results are all hidden. I know that document that Maggie found was
>probably buried, so that no one would ever find it, but luckily someone
>did! To know that there were falsified studies printed is very
>disturbing.
>
>Pulmonary embolism has been a side effect reported to the FDA for a long
>time now from Lupron.
>http://www.geocities.com/lupronfacts/sideeffects.html#Women
>
>I think either problems from this drug are very underreported, because
>people are simply too sick to mess with it, or the FDA is in the pocket
>of TAP. A billion dollar company can buy anything or anyone that they
>want. I would not put it past them. If the FDA knew about the rat &
>pituitary study, as reported in the testimony, why was that not included
>in the Lupron warning leaflet? Hardly anyone receives the leaflet, which
>is an FDA regulation of this drug. They have never followed up on that
>and doctors do not follow that rule, or no one would want to take it!
>
>All doctors say that women with all these terrible illnesses are in the
>minority, but I don't believe that. I think that is just what the
>doctors want us to believe. Lupron dominates the market when it comes
>to ghrh antagonist drugs, because TAP offers doctors the biggest
>incentives of all the drug companies. Notice that you don't hear nearly
>as much about Zoladex, made by Astra-Zeneca, it is the same kind of
>drug. EVERY doctor who I've seen, except for one over the last 20
>years, has pushed me to take LUPRON and nothing else. That is scary.
>
>My period pain is terrible too, I get a 102 fever, can hardly make it to
>the bathroom and will faint if I walk more than 20 feet. It hurt just
>to insert a tampon. That lasts about 3 days...but the pain women like
>you go through every day is unimaginable to me.
>
>Doctors would never give me pain meds until I found my general
>practitioner when I was 30. All of them wanted to give me a
>hysterectomy or Lupron, though. It just does not make sense. My GP is
>the ONLY doc who has helped me and I have spent thousands on pills and
>docs over the years. Why is it so impossible to get help for endo? The
>only doc who I would really trust to do surgery on me is Redwine in
>Oregon. He is totally against gnrh drugs, but I can't afford him.
>
>I thought I trusted the specialist I have been seeing to do my surgery,
>because he did not push Lupron on me and was super nice, but I think he
>gave me preferential treatment, because an ex-boyfriend of mine who he
>plays golf with sent me to him. I sent a friend of mine to him,
>thinking he would be good to her too, but he wants her to do 6 more
>months of Lupron and she just did 7 mos of it! That is beyond FDA
>regulations!! She has bad fibromyalgia. So now, I think he's a total
>creep too. Can't he see how sick she is? I guess his greed is more
>important than her health. I told her how sorry I was, that I did not
>think he would do that. So now, I am just going to stay on pain
>managment for a while til I figure something out. I feel like I'm at
>square one again. He is supposed to be a great surgeon, but how can I
>trust someone to operate on me, who is knowingly making thier patients
>sick?
>At Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Michelle wrote:
>>
>>Andrea, thanks. I do have a lot of health problems and I'm not sure why
>>they have developed. My problems began with severe endometriosis,
>>followed by autoimmune disease and Raynauds. The pain and inflammation
>>in my abdomen was so severe that if I was exercising at the time my
>>period began, I would faint. I have spent many a day in bed and missed
>>much school and work. The devastating impact of this disease has been
>>largely ignored by the medical establishment for decades, unfortunately.
>>
>>In the years after the surgeries and Lupron, I developed a pituitary
>>microadenoma, adrenal insufficiency and the pulmonary hypertension. I
>>don't know why I have developed these additional conditions. There is
>>no clear cause at this time. As for Lupron, the main thing I know for
>>sure is that it did not stop or even delay the progression of my
>>endometriosis. Three years after having nine months of shots I was back
>>in the operating room and extensive adhesions and damage to left ovary
>>and fallopian tube, which had to be removed. So I'm not at all sold on
>>its effectiveness as a treatment for endometriosis. Aside from being
>>completely ineffective, the next concern is the side effects. My
>>pituitary tumor has developed at a time when it would be very possible
>>that Lupron caused it to develop. I'm intrigued by the reference in the
>>testimony to monkey studies that showed pituitary microadenomas as a
>>result of exposure to Lupron. I'd like to see those studies. I wonder
>>how many other women with endometriosis who have taken Lupron have
>>developed pituitary tumors. This needs to be researched. Along these
>>lines, I believe that if anyone thinks that Lupron has harmed them in
>>this way or any other way, you should report your concerns to the FDA.
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/problem.html
>>
>>If several people have developed pitutiary microadenomas, for instance,
>>if we all report the problem, the FDA will see a trend and look into it.
>>
>>I also think that genetics could play a key role in making certain
>>people more susceptible to developing illnesses such as endometrisosis
>>and pituitary microadenomas. All of this needs to be researched. I
>>just wish more researchers were interested in this disease.
>>
>>Take care all,
>>
>>--
>>Michelle
>>
>>At Wed, 17 Oct 2007, andrea wrote:
>>>
>>>At Wed, 17 Oct 2007, andrea wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Michelle,
>>>>
>>>>I'm so sorry for all you are going through, I can't imagine how hard it
>>>>must be. When I first joined this site, I thought my problems were bad,
>>>>but to see so many women on here sick from Lupron makes my cramps seem
>>>>minor. I've had tons of doctors pressure me to take it, but I've always
>>>>refused. I really do want to fight for all of you with Lupron
>>>>illnesses, I just hope I can. Please e-mail me, so we can keep in touch
>>>>& I can keep you updated on things.
>>>>
>>>>Take care of yourself,
>>>>Andrea
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Michelle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hmmm...very interesting. I developed my pituitary microadenoma in the
>>>>>years after taking Lupron in 1997. The idea that Lupron could lead to
>>>>>pituitary disease sounds very plausible to me because the drug so
>>>>>artificially and abnormally hyperstimulates the pituitary gland to
>>>>>produce FSH that I'm sure damage could easily occur to this tiny gland.
>>>>>Further, I have been told I have a "nonfunctional" pituitary adenoma
>>>>>which tumors typically arise from abnormal cells of the gonadotroph
>>>>>variety. The tumor has grown 4mm in size and is almost a macroadenoma
>>>>>now, growing at a rate of 1mm+ per year. I will probably have to have
>>>>>pituitary surgery some year soon. Also, I have adrenal insufficiency
>>>>>that I believe is due in part to this pituitary tumor, which has almost
>>>>>killed me three times now with adrenal crises. With a nonfunctional
>>>>>adenoma, you can end up with adrenal problems, thryoid problems,
>>>>>gynecologic problems, etc., such as mine because the abnormal tissue in
>>>>>the pituitary continues to grow over time, displacing the normal
>>>>>pituitary tissue and that is how you end up with a virtual
>>>>>hypophysectomy because the normal pituitary cells are destroyed and
>>>>>replaced by the abnormal ones and the pituitary therefore loses the
>>>>>ability to produce the pituitary stimulating hormones such as ACTH, FHS,
>>>>>TSH, GH, and so one, that stimulate the adrenals, thyroid, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>I truly believe that the link between Lupron and pituitary problems
>>>>>should be studied further. Also, I think that researchers and doctors
>>>>>should be much more attentive to the side effects of long-term use of
>>>>>estrogen/progestin pills for endometriosis. I believe that I have
>>>>>suffered a lot of damage from these pills. For years, they caused
>>>>>numbness in my arms, sharp head pains, and other such symptoms. I have
>>>>>evidence of small infarcts, liver damage, and pulmonary hypertension
>>>>>now. I believe the pills played some role in much of this, based on my
>>>>>symptoms. Doctors should not dismiss offhand, as mine did, the
>>>>>complaints of a patient with regard to such symptoms as I now know they
>>>>>are quite serious. Focal nodular hyperplasia in the liver, sharp head
>>>>>pain and evidence of microvascular disease in the brain, Raynauds, heart
>>>>>strain, nonspecific ischemia, shortness of breath, and so on, should all
>>>>>be taken seriously and not dismissed. Instead, doctors are waiting for
>>>>>a major stroke or heart attack to occur before they take any complaints
>>>>>seriously. By then, it's too late.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stay vigilent everyone. And thanks for the post. Interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 16 Oct 2007, andrea wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>These quotes are from the PDF that Maggie found of testimony of a nurse,
>>>>>>Lynne Millican, to the Senate, who became ill from Lupron 10 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also spoke with Emily Page, the woman who started the Lupron petition,
>>>>>>and she also believes there is a cover-up going on when it comes to
>>>>>>Lupron. She sued TAP, but was given very little money, because her
>>>>>>doctor denied her problems were caused by the Lupron. She is still very
>>>>>>sick today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please read these outtakes, and see what you think....falsifying 80% of
>>>>>>info in 4 Lupron studies? That sounds like a cover-up to me....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pg 54: TAP has been declared a criminal enterprise based upon its scheme
>>>>>>with physicians and billing fraud and kickbacks and they just paid the
>>>>>>largest fine in history at the time, $875 million.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pg 58: The internet posts of women identify the badgering, and coercion,
>>>>>>and manipulation, and threats used to convince women into taking Lupron
>>>>>>for a variety of indications—many refer to their doctor as trying to
>>>>>>‘‘shove it down [their] throat’’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pg 58: I would later learn that the director of this IVF clinic, Dr.
>>>>>>Andrew Friedman, had been a lead Lupron investigator, had received
>>>>>>numerous grants and funds from Lupron’s manufacturer, Takeda Abbott
>>>>>>Pharmaceuticals (TAP), and had published extensively on Lupron. Dr.
>>>>>>Friedman was ultimately found guilty of falsifying and fabricating
>>>>>>approximately 80 percent of the data in four Lupron studies, two of
>>>>>>which had been published and were subsequently retracted. Friedman had
>>>>>>‘‘altered and fabricated information in patient medical records,
>>>>>>falsified research notes by changing dates and changing and adding
>>>>>>text’’, and fabricated notes and fabricated patients for clinical visits
>>>>>>that had not taken place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pg 61: The profoundly significant and despicable thefts (‘‘conversion’’,
>>>>>>‘‘sharing’’) of women’s ova and embryos by Drs. Ricardo Asch, Sergio
>>>>>>Stone and Jose Balmaceda at the University of California at Irvine
>>>>>>(Regents; Press; 1995) should be a serious reminder to the utter (and
>>>>>>anesthetized) ease with which such menacing maneuvers can be executed.
>>>>>>(And Dr. Asch had co-authored studies of Lupron, ‘‘which was kindly
>>>>>>provided by Abbott’’ [Guerrero, 1993]). The contemptible violations of
>>>>>>stealing women’s eggs and embryos should highlight the profitability of
>>>>>>schemes to procure women’s eggs and embryos for use in research and/or
>>>>>>covert ‘re-sale’. Dr. Asch reportedly ‘left his office daily with
>>>>>>briefcase stuffed with thousands of dollars’. And attention should be
>>>>>>directed to the drug protocol(s) used—medications administered
>>>>>>‘‘deliberately’’ ‘‘so there would be a surplus of eggs’’ (Challender,
>>>>>>1995). Who is exerting any oversight over the field of reproductivity?
>>>>>>Who would exert oversight over therapeutic cloning—this same industry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pg 63: Women are told that Lupr.

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