ENDO Messages for October, 2007: Re: Bowel problems, IBS, Endo and PID

Re: Bowel problems, IBS, Endo and PID

From: D (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Oct 10 10:12:44 2007

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In reply to: Lisa: "Bowel problems, IBS, Endo and PID"

Thanks Lisa, good point. I'd also like to mention that if you have endo, you do NOT have IBS - a diagnosis of endo (or PID) excludes IBS. Here's a site with some more info:

http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/ibs.asp#diseases

>From that site:

"In essence, the diagnosis of IBS is a process of exclusion. There is no medical test available that will be positive for IBS; instead, your doctor will test you for all other illnesses that can mimic IBS symptoms, and if those tests are negative, and if your symptoms fit the Rome II Guidelines for Diagnosis, you'll then be diagnosed with IBS. In particular, it's important that the following diseases are excluded before you accept a diagnosis of IBS:

Colon and carcinoid cancer Inflammatory bowel diseases (Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis) Bowel obstructions Diverticulosis / Diverticulitis Gallstones Food allergies Celiac (a genetic, autoimmune disorder resulting in gluten intolerance) Bacterial infections Intestinal parasites Endometriosis Ovarian cancer"

You simply cannot have both endo and IBS! This doesn't mean that what works for IBS will not work for endo-related bowel issues, it just means that you can't be diagnosed with both at the same time. If you have endo and you have bowel problems, it is very likely that the endo is causing the bowel problems - and if your doctor still insists it is "IBS" you may want to find a new doctor!

I had some pretty bad bowel symptoms before my excision lap this past July, my doctor didn't find endo directly on the bowel, but it was near it, and there were some adhesions. Since the surgery, it's all gone back to normal, and I'm feeling much, much better.

Going to a really good endo excision specialist whose main focus is only endo - not infertility, incontinence, obgyn, etc. - offers the best chance of relief for the longest time after surgery.

At Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Lisa wrote: >
>So after my post a couple of weeks back about a connection between IBS
>and endo I did some research. With the help of my sister, I found a
>couple of key articles discussing the link between these abdominal pain
>causing syndromes/diseases.
>
>This is the abstract of one of them:
>
>"Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is common. The symptom
>criteria for the diagnosis of IBS remain non specific.
>Similarly, pelvic inflammatory disease and endometriosis
>present with symptoms that may be similiar to those of
>IBS. The site of pain, intermenstrual bleeding and
>exacerbation of symptoms by food may be able to help
>differentiate the two groups. However, there is still
>considerable overlap in the symptomatology of the two
>conditions and to this end both specialties should work
>together to investigate and manage these patients."
>
>Taken from "Irritable bowel syndrome, chronic pelvic inflammatory
>disease and endometriosis." By Devinder Kumar
>
>The information is out there and it basically says that they are
>probably all linking. Thought that might be useful. So when your
>doctor tells you that your IBS or bowel issues is a GI issue and not an
>endo issue...just tell them to read up on the studies!!!
>
>--
>Lisa
>

-- Find an endo specialist in the ERC's EndoDocs group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EndoDocs/

Try an excellent endo support group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erc/

Info on pain management: http://www.painfoundation.org/

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