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Re: COULD ENDO CAUSE E-COLI AND OTHER BACTERIA INTO THE BLADDER?!!!HELP!!!!From: M (anonymous@obgyn.net)Tue Apr 24 11:54:50 2007
I have the same problem with frequent UTIs. I'm not sure why. They tend to show up at that tiime of the month or near then. I have mentioned to to docs but have gotten no feedback. I have also have a lot of the problems with endo and my monthly that you described. I'm sorry you have such a history of cancer,etc in your family. Cancer and heart disease also runs in my family. I'm not sure where I got the endo from. I do agree with the weak immune system theory. I hope you will find relief. Keep us posted. M At Mon, 23 Apr 2007, anonymous wrote: > >Candice I appreciate your response-I have considered the immune system >being at least part of the issue. I have been taking my antibiotics as >perscribed-in full. Also-perhaps some family history might help as well >I am 28 and have had endo for 11 years. My mother had a hysterectomy at >the age of 24-she had a grapefruit size tumor-they told her the possible >cause was reccurent UTI's, in those days they couldn't pinpoint the >exact reason. My paternal grandmother was just 26-she had cancer that >had affected her whole reproductive system, and when she was 58 was also >diagnosed with breast cancer, and had a mastectomy. My maternal >grandmother was 33 when she had her hysterectomy-she also had 10 >kids-later in her life she also had cancer in her colon,intestines, gall >bladder, and just recently skin cancer-so the family history of cancer >in general-not to mention cancer of the cervix or ovaries is huge in our >family. It has been 5 years since my last lap-the regular symptoms I >have always had with endo are still there: speradic periods-lasting only >while urinating the first day-the second and third days the flow is very >heavy, and the pain so immense-I do not want to get out of the bed-have >to because I have to go to work, or take care of my kids. Then it will >just stop for a day and then it will come back heavy again for a few >days. Like I said the pain-cramps, bloating, irritability-is awful-but >for me-it has been my reality for the last 13 years +, so I have lived >with it in silence-but these reccurent uti's for the past 15 months-make >me confused as to where all the pain is coming from-is it from my >period-usually onset by or worsened by my period, or is it from the >uti's themselves. I can't help but think there isn't some link, and I >am not ruling out seeing a urologist-if it doesn't seem to be the >problem-I will go, but being I have waited 15 months since the onset of >these problems-if it is endo-and it was bad the last time-if I wait >until after my next 2 or 3 urology appointments-what happens if I could >have prevented how far it has gone. I did compose a letter to my obgyn, >and mailed it today, I did include many different possibilities-my >husband and I passing it back and forth, the endo, ic-and the fact that >maybe he should refer me to a urologist. I do appreciate your feedback, >as well as anyone else that can help. Thanks. > >At Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Candace wrote: >> >>I would not go in for another lap just to see how the endo is doing. It >>costs too much money for one, and it's useless just to see if it is >>causing your UTIs. The one who would best be able to tell you about >>your UTIs is a urologist. They know the most about it. The only thing >>I could think of is if your immune system is for some reason suppressed. >>I heard that endo may have a link to that. I don't remember where I >>heard it. That could cause your body to not be able to fight the UTIs >>as well. One more thing, if you're not taking your antibiotics the full >>course the UTI may not have been all the way gone and it's just coming >>back from residual bacteria left over in the tract. >> >>Good luck, and I hope you feel better soon. >> >>At Sat, 21 Apr 2007, anonymous wrote: >>> >>>Dr Daiter or anyone else that might be able to help. I realize that >>>UTI's with Bacteria are not common among endo sufferers, but is it >>>possible? I have other endo issues as well and am wondering if it is >>>worth it to go back for a lap before I see the urologist about my >>>recurrent uti's. I have been diagnosed w/endo-11 years ago, it has been >>>5 years since my last lap. >>> >>>At Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Eric Daiter, MD wrote: >>>> >>>>If you are having frequent urinary infections you should see an >>>>Urologist and they often do a radiological test called an IVP. Frequent >>>>UTIs are not a common problem in women with endometriosis. >>>> >>>>Good Luck >>>> >>>>At Wed, 18 Apr 2007, anonymous wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I AM SO ABSOLUTELY FRUSTRATED. WHEN I WAS 15 I STARTED TO HAVE PAINFUL >>>>>PERIODS, AND WOULD BLEED FOR WEEKS. WHEN I WAS 16 THEY FOUND A CYST ON >>>>>MY OVARY. WHEN I WAS 17 (AFTER SEEING A TON OF DOCTORS) THEY DID A LAP, >>>>>AND FOUND A SMALL SPOT OF ENDO, AND CAUTERIZED IT. FIVE YEARS LATER I >>>>>WAS IN DEBILITATING PAIN-WOULD CURL UP AND CRY, MY PREVIOUS DOCTOR MOVED >>>>>SO I NEEDED TO FIND A NEW OBGYN-THE ONE I FOUND WAS AWESOME & DID THE >>>>>LAP SURGURY AGAIN. THIS TIME THEY FOUND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT-I HAVE NO >>>>>IDEA WHAT STAGE IT WAS (NEVER KNEW ENDO HAD STAGES) BUT THERE WAS ENOUGH >>>>>TO GO ON LUPRON INJECTIONS FOR 6 MONTHS (THAT SUCKED). AFTER THE LUPRON >>>>>WAS OVER I WENT ON BIRTH CONTROL FOR 6 MONTHS, AND AFTER 3 WEEKS OF >>>>>BEING OFF THE PILL I WAS PREGNANT. I NURSED MY SON SO I DID NOT HAVE A >>>>>PERIOD FOR ABOUT A YEAR AFTER HE WAS BORN. >>>>> >>>>>NOW FOR THE LAST 15 MONTHS I HAVE HAD 8 UTI'S-NOT ALL OF THEM WITH THE >>>>>SAME BACTERIA EITHER-SOMETIMES IT IS E-COLI AND OTHERS PNEMONIA (SORRY >>>>>IF SPELLED WRONG) THERE COULD BE OTHER BACTERIA AS WELL-MY RESULTS ARE >>>>>OFTEN DISCLOSED TO ME AS-YOU HAVE AN INFECTION. OKAY SINCE I COULD GO >>>>>TO THE BATHROOM ON MY OWN WE WILL SAY AGE 2 OR 3 (I AM 28 NOW) I HAVE >>>>>NOT CHANGED HOW I WIPE-FRONT TO BACK, BEFORE THIS TIME I HAD MAYBE ONE >>>>>OR TWO UTI'S MY WHOLE LIFE. AFTER MY SECOND INFECTION IN THE LAST 15 >>>>>MONTHS I HAVE BEEN USING BABY WIPES AFTER DEFECATING TO AVOID BACTERIA >>>>>FROM ENTERING MY URINARY TRACT. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT WORKING. AT MY >>>>>LAST VISIT-BEFORE THIS 8TH ONE WAS FOUND (WHICH WAS ONLY RUN BECAUSE I >>>>>HAD GIVEN THE SAMPLE BEFORE THE DOCTOR EXAMINED ME) THE DOCTOR SAID HE >>>>>DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL ME-IT COULD BE STRESS, GRAVITY, MY RECENT >>>>>PREGNANCY (MY SON IS ALMOST 3). HE SAID HE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE EVERY DAY >>>>>MUCH SICKER THAN MYSELF SO HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL ME. HE >>>>>WOULD RUN THIS CULTURE SINCE I ALREADY GAVE IT. WELL THIS MADE ME CRY-A >>>>>DOCTOR WHO I THOUGHT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH-AND WHO WAS USUALLY VERY >>>>>GOOD TO ME SEES THIS AS A PETTY VISIT MAYBE HE WAS HAVING A BAD DAY-BUT >>>>>IT HURT-IT WAS NOT PETTY TO ME-WHEN I CANNOT FUNCTION, AND CANNOT PLAY >>>>>WITH MY KIDS, OR DO REGULAR CLEANING AROUND THE HOUSE-IT FLAT OUT ANGERS >>>>>ME. WELL I STARTED TO PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND STARTED TO THINK-COULD >>>>>THIS BE RELATED TO THE ENDO-MY FLANK PAIN IS EITHER ONSET OR INCREASED >>>>>AT THE TIME OF MY PERIOD, AND THE VERY FIRST DAY OF MY PERIOD I COULD >>>>>USE A SANITARY NAPKIN AND NOT BLEED ON IT AT ALL, BUT WHEN I URINATE I >>>>>PASS CLOTS AND THE URINE IS QUITE BLOODY, ALSO I AM A LARGER GIRL, BUT >>>>>THERE APPEARS TO BE MORE GURTH TO MY RIGHT SIDE THAN MY LEFT (DURING MY >>>>>PELVIC THE DOCTOR SAID EVERYTHING FEELS FINE AND MY RESULTS WERE NOT >>>>>ABNORMAL, BUT I NEVER HAVE HAD AN ABNORMAL PAP-YET I HAD A SIGNIFICANT >>>>>AMOUNT OF ENDO. >>>>> >>>>>COULD THE E-COLI AND OTHER BACTERIA THAT TYPICALLY LIVE IN THE STOMACHE >>>>>BE SPILLING INTO MY URINARY TRACT WITHOUT IT HAVING TO DO WITH MY HYGENE >>>>>PRACTICES? I HAVEN'T GONE INTO THE CLINIC FOR A URINE TEST UNLESS I HAVE >>>>>SEVERE FLANK PAIN, CHILLS, FEVER, AND NAUSEA-AND EVEN THOUGH MY KIDNEYS >>>>>WERE HURTING LIKE A SOB-ONE OF THE RESULTS AT THE HOSPITAL SAID THERE >>>>>WAS ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF INFECTION. I AM CURRENTLY ON DETROL FOR AN >>>>>OVERACTIVE BLADDER-RECENTLY PERSCRIBED AND HAVE BEEN ON ANTIBIOTICS 8 >>>>>TIMES (HOW CAN THIS BE GOOD?). I FEEL LIKE THE DOCTORS THINK I AM DOING >>>>>THIS TO MYSELF-IF IT WEREN'T FOR MY CHILDREN I NEED TO CARE FOR & LOVE >>>>>SO MUCH-I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO. IF I KNEW FOR SURE THAT E-COLI >>>>>AND OTHER BACTERIA INDEED COULD ENTER MY URINARY TRACT BECAUSE OF ENDO-I >>>>>WOULD DEMAND ANOTHER SCOPE-MY LAST ONE WAS 5 YEARS AGO (SAME TIME AS >>>>>BEFORE WHEN THERE WAS A SMALL SPOT CAUTERIZED TO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT) I >>>>>DO NOT KNOW IF MY DOCTOR WILL DO IT OR NOT-HE SEEMS TO THINK WITH HIS >>>>>ACCURACY AND THE TREATMENTS I HAVE HAD-THAT ENDOMETRIOSIS JUST ISN'T >>>>>THERE ANYMORE. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY ADVISE-IF THIS IS POSSIBLE >>>>>AND IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 15 MONTHS-I THINK IT SHOULD GET TAKEN CARE >>>>>OF SOON (AND PROVE TO MYSELF THAT I AM NOT CRAZY & NOT DOING THIS TO >>>>>MYSELF). >>>>> >>>>>ANGELICA >>>> >>>>-- >>>>http://www.infertilitytutorials.com >>>> >>-- >>Candace >> >>Wishing for pain free days for all! >>
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