ENDO Messages for August, 2006: Re: TO ANON _ Re: ad this if you are considering chemical or surgical castration (ie Lupron or Hyst)

Re: TO ANON _ Re: ad this if you are considering chemical or surgical castration (ie Lupron or Hyst)

From: Elisa (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed Aug 30 10:57:48 2006

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Hi Alex and Everyone~

I wouldn't worry about getting flamed for this, I can see how this statement on the title can be a bit disturbing. I bet someone who wrote this had to have meant to word that differently.

There is no "castration" if you will, otherwise it would mean it's a cure right by cutting off? :) So the verbiage right there condradicts itself.

I have no problem saying that there is NO cure period. There are methods of managing this disease. I have had a total and complete hysterectomy, ovaries included and guess what...the endo that was still hidden behind the peritonieum is still cycling. It's wreaking havoc no different than before this hysterectomy.

The degrees of pain are different and for that I am glad that ceasing the menses even after doing Lupron and Synarel are nice not to worry about. It does not mean the endo is gone though. No one could ever make that statement as we are all different. I do know just from my experience using Lupron and or Synarel prior to my surgical dissection and using consecutive B-Control after my dissection to cease my cycles...and later on having a hysterectomy, not for endo but for fibroids out of control that I did get 8 wonderful years when all this is used in a systematic approach to "maintaining" endo, not cure it.

I have it back now as it "woke up" after all these years and post hysterectomy (ovaries included) the option of Lupron is not a choice I am willing to make as there are no target organs to greatly make a difference (i.e ovaries). I wish menopause would do this but from what I see it hasn't.

There will always be a split on this topic and the results each of us gets. However; throwing this type "castration" theory doesn't help those who are confused and using these solutions in a "maintenance" program could prove beneficial to others who are willing to try.

None of this is fun as we all know but sharing solutions is all we can do. I wouldn't have changed my decision on my hysterectomy at 38 as I know I did everything I could for my body with this disease. I will never see it as "castration" though, I think that's the verbiage that is disturbing on the post here. I will give this ANON the benefit of the doubt and suggest the choice of the title was just bad that's all.

Is this supposed to be from Dr. Redwine by the way?

I hope everyone has a comfortable day.

--
Elisa

At Wed, 30 Aug 2006, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
>
>I hope I don't get flamed for this but this is really bothering me...and
>I mean this with only good intentions so here goes nothing...
>
>Lupron is NOT a method of chemical castration...it is a temporary
>chemically induced mennopause which is absolutely not anywhere near to
>being a castration.
>
>Please get your facts and words straight before posting.  The last thing
>we need is women on Lupron freaking out after reading that they might be
>in the process of a "chemical castration".
>
>Also, Lupron has never once claimed to get rid of endo 100%...all they
>claim is that while on the drug, and for hopefully many months after, it
>will provide relief as it diminishes estrogen (hence the chemically
>induced mennopause) in the body.
>
>I love this forum, but it really bothers me when I see posts like this.
>The article is legit, but your intro needs A LOT of work.
>
>Alexis.
>
>At Tue, 29 Aug 2006, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>http://www.endometriosistreatment.org/html/question9.html
>>
>>It's from Dr.  R in Bend, OR...apparently the evidence that menopause
>>dissappears endo is not 100% :(

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