Re: Elisa ~ questions about the pain clinic / Anyone know any good books on forgiveness?
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat Jul 8 10:21:51 2006
To clarify a point here is that when she says we create our lives, it is
because of our reactions and beliefs. This is not a blame thing at all.
In fact she is against blaming anyone, including ourselves. I know this
sounds like a paradox, but it isn't. Everyone is doing the best with
what they know at that time.
There is a strong body-mind connection. It took me a long time to come
to that conclusion for myself. This is not saying that disease is
psychosomatic in the negative way our society portrays it, but is just a
fact that there is no way we can separate what goes on in our minds and
what goes on in our bodies, they are all connected. I am not bringing
this up to make anyone mad and I am not saying that endo is in the head
because it is a real, painful disease - I have been there. But I do
think there is some mind component involved. Believe me when I had
first heard about this idea, I was very, very angry. But when I really
started to understand the connections it made so much sense. I do
believe that meditation, relaxation and acceptance and loving ourselves
and forgiving others is very important in our healing process. I guess
what I am saying is that when we are looking for alternative ways to
treat endo, this might be one path that might be helpful for some
people.
At Sat, 8 Jul 2006, anonymous wrote:
>
>One book that has helped me has been Louise L. Hay, "You can heal your
>life." This book might really make some people angry because she
>believes that we create our lives, which includes the endo. (she
>doesn't mention endo specifically, but she had cancer and she was able
>to heal herself). I had a hard time with that concept for a really long
>time. But after everything I have been through, you do get to a point
>where you have to learn to forgive because if you don't it only hurts
>you and can actually cause more disease. If you find this book
>offensive, you try at the library and look for other books on
>forgiveness. One of the biggest lessons I have had to learn is to
>forgive and let go because if I didn't I was hurting myself more.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>At Sat, 1 Jul 2006, Jenny wrote:
>>
>>Hi, I was curious about a couple of things. I don't need a pain clinic
>>right now because I'm feeling better, but that was going to be my next
>>stop if acupuncture didn't work.
>>
>>How much does the pain clinic cost? I heard that it was fairly
>>expensive. Also, what alternative methods did they try on you? Do they
>>do other things for you besides prescribing pain killers? I like the
>>idea of signing something to take responsibility for taking pain meds
>>that some of us so desparately need.
>>
>>A doctor from last year made me feel like a great, big, fat piece of
>>crap by giving me an extremley hard time about my Vicodin usage. She
>>left the room during my last visit to ask her collegue what he
>>prescribes and how much of it for endo patients. She came back to tell
>>me how he prescribes 15 a month. I said then his paitients don't have
>>cronic pelvic pain every single day. After my appointment, when I was
>>paying the bill I saw her and the other doctor talking in hushed tones,
>>looking at me, and my doc was shaking her head. (About 4 months later I
>>had another lap with a new doctor that showed no endo this time, but
>>there was massive scar tissue joining my ovary to my bowel and bladder,
>>believed to be from that last doctor's lap on me from 6 months earlier.)
>>:(
>>
>>I know I just got off on a tangent about that; it is really hard for me
>>to let go of my anger. I need to work on forgiveness and it's so hard
>>to break through that wall within myself. I am feeling better with the
>>cramps, but I have a lot of anger at: proffesionals who didn't take me
>>seriously about the pain for almost 20 years, previous employers and
>>teachers who just thought I was trying to get a few days off, friends
>>who made tons of PMS jokes about me and thought I was just making a big
>>deal about my period, and even myself for not being stronger and
>>standing up for myself.
>>
>>Thanks for listening.
>>
>>~Jenny with issues
>>
>>P.S. Yesterday I started my period and I've taken nothing, not even
>>Advil, because I feel pretty good. I think the last time I had a period
>>with no pain meds was during the Reagan administration.
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